
12/26/02
9:22:32 AM
64.91.62.9
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
I quit watching anything with jane fonda in it because of the traitor's visit to viet nam , I see old dogs do the same tricks , wrapping a rag around your head now are ya
12/23/02
6:07:57 PM
207.69.114.186
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
I am appalled at the antics of Jane. I knew here when her kids Vanessa and Troy, went to the Santa Monica Alternative School with my daughter.
I worked hard at getting her then husband Tom Hayden into the California Senate.
I remember when Vanessa Redgrave, for whom Jane's daughter is named, made a pro Palestinian film. Jane's comment at the time, "She must have lost her mind".
Well now our Jane is over in Israel communing with the Palestinians and ghelping them to make "Peace". Those of us who have lived in Israel know better.
I think Jane ought to concentrate on problems we have here in the US. And we sure have plenty. Orah Haase
12/23/02
12:28:35 PM
208.61.168.186
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 95)
> This may not mean much to some of you,but this needs to be kept out there so > that this and future generations can see what a traitor looks like. This > woman and all like her do not deserve to live in this great nation that God > has blessed us with. > > I don't know how you feel about this, but I feel strongly that Jane Fonda > was a traitor and does not need to be included as one of the great 100 women > of the 20th century. If you do too read this and remember and then forward > it on. If not, just delete it now. > > LEST WE FORGET. The picture says it all.................... > KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR > > This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and > didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older > brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the > "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still > countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea > of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. > > The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry > Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival > School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking > cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to > describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane > treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged > away. > > During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's > feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered > from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the > Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. > > From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 > -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". > His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the > cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. > > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that > they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN > on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a > cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little > encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are > you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" > Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. > > She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once > the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned > to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers.. Three > men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number > four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions > that day. > > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured > by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for > over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage > in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese > captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a > leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near > the Cambodian border. > > At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 > lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." > > When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political > officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I > would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different > from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane > Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a > rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel > placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. > > I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I > was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She > did not answer me. > > This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years > of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never > include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many > patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but > Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. > > Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It > will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will > never forget. > >
12/23/02
11:16:44 AM
24.50.154.153
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Q312461)
Sean Penn should join the crew of Mike Farrell's "Artists United to Win Without War" with Jane Fonda and leave Earth in the "RED", shag-carpeted spaceship of love - from Hanoi Jane's epic, Barbarella.
12/23/02
10:05:55 AM
24.50.154.153
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Q312461)
Sean Penn should join the crew of Mike Farrell's "Artists United to Win Without War" with Jane Fonda and leave Earth in the "RED", shag-carpeted spaceship of love - from Hanoi Jane's epic, Barbarella.
12/23/02
8:48:23 AM
204.255.238.31
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
195 different chemicals dumped into the nations water supply kill millions while oil companies murder whistleblowers who stand up to their cancer causeing chemicals
12/20/02
12:03:18 AM
66.233.120.200
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; YComp 5.0.2.6)
I really don't believe that this is a fan message board for you Miss Fond. I was a little kid during the Veitnam war. My step father was part of that war. Fortunatlly for us he came home unharmed at least not physically. One of the most memorable things that I can remember about that war, was my mom at home telling us how that stupid old whore Jane Fonda was over in Veitnam parading around getting our young men killed. Because your name gives people such a bad feeling in their stomaches maybe Miss Fonda you should considering changing it. I'm not sure what it should be maybe stupid old Whore, at least this way people could at least have a good laugh about it. Because it is so fitting. I am sure with the Help ...... Help of you other faaaaans. lol We could all come up with some creative new name for you. By the way you will be booed like crazy if your face ever shows up on the 100 year of Women.
12/15/02
10:09:09 PM
204.255.238.192
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Chandra Levy's body was secreted just long enough to let the evidence deteriorate, Chandra was a jew as were many others whose trail I came onto chaseing tobacco murderers
12/15/02
9:26:28 AM
204.255.238.145
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Rocky 1 2 3 4 Waco/Oklahoma City/Manhattan/ Pentagon are all tied to the oil lobby which owns this republic for which we don't stand beware texas oil men investigations
12/15/02
8:58:44 AM
204.255.238.145
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Occidental petroleum with Armand Hammer owned Bob Dole which is why they planned the breakin at his watergate apartment and why 99 million in U.S. have died of cancer
12/8/02
9:29:24 PM
63.210.225.121
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
I am retired military. Y ou were responsible for torture and killings of American pow in VIETNAM. YOU ARE AN OVER THE HILL WHORE AND TRATOR .GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY.
12/8/02
9:23:55 PM
63.210.225.121
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
I am retired military. Y ou were responcible for torture and killings of American powsin VIETNAM. YOU ARE A OVER THE HILL WHORE AND TRATOR GO TO HELL
12/6/02
8:17:42 AM
204.255.239.35
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Army whore of Engineers wants kickbacks to stop drug smugglers because the crooks pay better and want floods and cancer to continue to pad HMO accounts
12/4/02
7:22:29 AM
204.255.239.113
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
why the Corp/FBI/ CIA killed Joe Camel and why his children were messed up with chromosone damge because LDS hate the gay people the chemi-cals cause
12/3/02
8:23:03 AM
204.255.239.58
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Fuel Cells are the answer, help Kerry and see if you can hook him up with a jewish guy so he doesn't run out of money. See Alonzo's oil times 195, go susan go, tell Ted
12/3/02
1:10:06 AM
12.219.240.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0; T312461; YComp 5.0.2.4)
KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. --- Arthur Stallings --- astallings0806@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.
12/2/02
3:34:02 PM
204.255.238.241
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Jim Garrison was a environmentalist and you see what happened to him and Musky didn't you? 4 dead carter family members was no accident, not at all, it was the FBI/CIA boys
11/30/02
4:56:36 PM
24.166.218.171
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; Q312461)
Jane Fonda Sucks!!!! She should never have a fan site. She should have been imprisoned as a traitor a long time ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11/27/02
9:16:41 PM
24.201.205.169
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
11/24/02
10:43:41 PM
204.255.236.187
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
33 years and 99 million dead americans later the truth will out, the Corps kickbacks preceds flood and cancer victims righth not to drink contaminated water with cow feces in it...mmoo
11/20/02
6:01:42 PM
24.171.38.106
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
jane i rarely tell some one that i hate them but hate does not say i how i feel about you . P.S. heard john walker lindh is looking for a wife thought you two would be great for each other.
11/20/02
5:50:54 PM
24.171.38.106
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
I'll forgive Hanio Jane no wait no i won't this is for my uncle who has not been the same person since returning from viet nam . may you have a wonder full time in hell....but i heard that even satan himself won;t except you into hell sorry taitor.
11/20/02
5:50:44 PM
24.171.38.106
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
I'll forgive Hanio Jane no wait no i won't this is for my uncle who has not been the same person since returning from viet nam . may you have a wonder full time in hell....but i heard that even satan himself won;t except you into hell sorry taitor.
11/20/02
5:43:14 PM
24.171.38.106
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
i think this site was set up by the people of hanio
11/20/02
5:41:23 PM
24.171.38.106
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
Dear Jane,
Go back to vietnam where you belong you worthless taitor.
"Love" Uncle Sam
11/20/02
5:41:13 PM
24.171.38.106
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
Dear Jane,
Go back to vietnam where you belong you worthless taitor.
"Love" Uncle Sam
11/20/02
5:41:02 PM
24.171.38.106
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; YComp 5.0.2.6)
Dear Jane,
Go back to vietnam where you belong you worthless taitor.
"Love" Uncle Sam
11/20/02
7:37:38 AM
204.255.236.64
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
the Army Whore of Engineers is mad as hell, and not gonna take it any longer, so when their 340 billion dollar a year drug deal gets burnt some one has to pay the masons
11/19/02
12:42:59 AM
64.12.96.236
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; AOL 5.0; Mac_PPC)
I have a screenplay I'll like to submit to your company. Please explain the proper procedure to do so. Kevinkdv@aol.com
11/6/02
10:24:27 PM
205.188.209.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 8.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Don't know if you can help or not, but I have been trying to find a certain Jane Fonda exercise video. Its hard because I don't know the title. It was somewhere around 1987 or so. The video started out with warm up exercises and stretches, then went to aerobics, followed by cool down and then floor exercises. The one thing I remember is that one of the "participants" in the video was Peggy Lipton from Mod Squad. I can hear some of the music in my head and I can visualize some of the routines, but that is all I have to go by. I am hoping Peggy Lipton clue might help. Do you have any idea of the tape I am referring to or do you have any idea of how I might locate what I am looking for. I have checked everywhere I can think of on the internet. I even had purchased 2 other of her tapes thinking that maybe it was the one, but of course it was not. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thank you
Bonnie
10/24/02
5:32:05 PM
204.255.238.186
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
99 million dead in U.S. while nut case oil men play protect the polluters and forget the flood and cancer victims whose water supply was contaminated
10/18/02
10:21:56 AM
208.158.243.40
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
Where can I find "The Doll Maker" movie? I think this is a Jane Fonda movie title.
10/9/02
10:26:03 PM
67.203.199.68
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; AT&T CSM6.0; YComp
5.0.0.0)
Hey hag! your such a disgrace to Amercia. Your views represent those of liberal, socialist hollywood and NOT those of the REAL folks whom dwell in and make this great country great. Why haven't you moved to China where you belong? And how do you sleep at night knowing that you were responsible for hundreds being tortured and murdered...Your a trouble making twit!
9/25/02
4:03:48 PM
207.14.76.53
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)
Jane, I am sickened by the thought that you are considered a "great" woman of the century. You have destroyed lives, including mine. My father was in Vietnam while you were there and he continues to have nightmares due to your actions. I have read that you consider yourself a Christian. When do you plan to begin trying to apologize for your selfish actions? I have never seen your movies or videos since your face starts another series of nightmares for my father. Why don't you leave our country and move to Vietnam since you like it so very much? I wish you would so that people could know that they wouldn't see you any longer on TV. You are a traitor and ruthless. How dare you pass along the soc. security numbers of the POWs which earned them additional torture. I think you should be voted as one of the most evil of the century! You've got my vote, Jane!
9/23/02
12:41:23 AM
204.210.159.26
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461)
a fan club for jane fonda? you must be joking...
9/19/02
5:10:26 PM
204.255.236.118
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
this case guy doesn't know how to sail but he may be ready to come about singing what do you do with a drunken sailor, ready to come about, sir? Hard aleee!
9/18/02
7:18:14 AM
198.26.118.37
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
As A Soldier currently serving in the United States Army let me say that I feel no sympathy towards you. I believe that you should have to explain to the families of my fallen brothers why you sacrificed their lives. It is my duty to fight so that you can have the freedoms to express your opinions, but know this every time I put on my uniform I think and grieve for those you fallen before me. When I think of you I grieve for those fallen comrades that you murdered. Instead of being one of the 100 greatest women. You should be known as one of the most infamous murderers in history. Sleep well Ms. Fonda knowing that somewhere in the world a Soldier is fighting for Freedoms and he does it not for reaches or rewards, but for love of country. Something that you know nothing about. Just like you know nothing about Honor,Duty, or Sacrifice
9/17/02
8:28:57 AM
208.13.133.116
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; MSN 2.5; Windows 98; T312461; Q312461)
FAN? LMFAO!! I just hope I live long enough to see Hanoi Jane Fonda's passing, so that I may wish her a speedy trip to the depths of Hell!
9/11/02
3:53:23 AM
205.188.209.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; AOL 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Ms. Fonda: I'm an Atlantan. I am Praying that GOD will Bless me with writing my book. I have been writing this book for two years and do not have the financial means to get the book published. I have enough Faith and Trust in GOD to know that if I can get this book published that it will be a "Bestseller, possibly a Movie Script". It's fictional but very interesting! Further info? bellangelad@aol.com Please respond? THANK YOU GOD!!!
9/11/02
3:51:45 AM
205.188.209.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; AOL 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
I am Praying that GOD will Bless me with writing my book. I have been writing this book for two years and do not have the financial means to get the book published. I have enough Faith and Trust in GOD to know that if I can get this book published that it will be a "Bestseller, possibly a Movie Script". It's fictional but very interesting!
THANK YOU GOD!!!
9/10/02
1:16:15 PM
205.188.209.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
9/7/02
7:40:20 PM
204.255.236.158
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
everytime I write an environmental- ist something bad happens to then, I think it's the FBI/CIA nut cases who think being masons means they have the right to act like psychos
9/6/02
9:41:12 AM
66.25.145.206
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
<img src="http://www.e-bmg.com/new1.gif">
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
9/6/02
9:28:15 AM
66.25.145.206
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
9/6/02
1:57:39 AM
198.81.27.6
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
I would like to talk to Jane for just five minutes, to ask her what it's like to be such a huge influence on women.
9/5/02
8:10:54 PM
152.163.188.38
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
9/5/02
4:21:33 PM
152.163.188.38
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
I LOVE Jane's exercise tapes!!!!!!!
Jane was the one who got me on the mat exercising!!!!
I Started doing her tapes when I was 14! I Had the new and original workout and a mat. I Remember I wanted to look & be like Jane when I did a tape. I remember I would do her tapes in my underwear with my undershirt tucked in to look like a leotard. After that I got an actual leotard & leg warmers so I would look somewhat real.
Jane kept me motivated to stay fit and exercise!
If their are any other Fonda workout fans that would like to correspond drop me a line! Geoff108@aol.com
Geoff
9/5/02
12:57:01 AM
202.89.67.51
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
HI, you are the best and a GOD's precious gift to this world.you are a great humane personality. I am your an indian social fan/friend.I believe in honesty and dedication.i have dedicated my life to orphans/poors and have to establish a project for orphans for their betterment and development.since we are now in ruthless world and slowly we are loosing our all brotherhood,morality,sentiments,culture and other precious thing, so todays its a useless issue to say anything to others for any expectation/support.but as a hope & a social friend i am sending my request to you.I need some support from you(as your desired) to establish my project for orphans/poors.Your few precious support will not affect you but it can give me a great way for a great work in favour of humanity.For your great kindness and support i will be very greatful to you, forever. Hope you will not feel uneasy with my any word. thanks Hoping for your good health,enjoyble and tention free life. Awaiting eagerly for your precious response. with my best wishes and regards prabhat ranjan new delhi india prabhat_ranjan1971@hotmail.com
9/5/02
12:56:51 AM
202.89.67.51
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
HI, you are the best and a GOD's precious gift to this world.you are a great humane personality. I am your an indian social fan/friend.I believe in honesty and dedication.i have dedicated my life to orphans/poors and have to establish a project for orphans for their betterment and development.since we are now in ruthless world and slowly we are loosing our all brotherhood,morality,sentiments,culture and other precious thing, so todays its a useless issue to say anything to others for any expectation/support.but as a hope & a social friend i am sending my request to you.I need some support from you(as your desired) to establish my project for orphans/poors.Your few precious support will not affect you but it can give me a great way for a great work in favour of humanity.For your great kindness and support i will be very greatful to you, forever. Hope you will not feel uneasy with my any word. thanks Hoping for your good health,enjoyble and tention free life. Awaiting eagerly for your precious response. with my best wishes and regards prabhat ranjan new delhi india prabhat_ranjan1971@hotmail.com
9/5/02
12:56:42 AM
202.89.67.51
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
HI, you are the best and a GOD's precious gift to this world.you are a great humane personality. I am your an indian social fan/friend.I believe in honesty and dedication.i have dedicated my life to orphans/poors and have to establish a project for orphans for their betterment and development.since we are now in ruthless world and slowly we are loosing our all brotherhood,morality,sentiments,culture and other precious thing, so todays its a useless issue to say anything to others for any expectation/support.but as a hope & a social friend i am sending my request to you.I need some support from you(as your desired) to establish my project for orphans/poors.Your few precious support will not affect you but it can give me a great way for a great work in favour of humanity.For your great kindness and support i will be very greatful to you, forever. Hope you will not feel uneasy with my any word. thanks Hoping for your good health,enjoyble and tention free life. Awaiting eagerly for your precious response. with my best wishes and regards prabhat ranjan new delhi india prabhat_ranjan1971@hotmail.com
8/31/02
10:14:25 PM
202.89.67.51
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Hi Jane-Fonda(a great name as a blue diamond glowing forever), you are the best and a GOD gift to this world.you are a great humane personality. i am an indian .i believe in honesty and dedication.i have dedicated my life to orphans/poors and have a dream to establish a project for orphans for their betterment and development.since we are now in ruthless world and slowly we are loosing our all humanity,sentiments,culture and other precious thing so todays its a useless issue to say anything to others for any expectation/support.but as a humanity i would like to send my request to you.i need some sponsorship from you(as your desired).your few precious support will not affect you but it can give me a great way for a great work.hope you will not feel uneasy with my any word.my english is not good as it should be so take it easy.please support me thanks hoping for your good health,enjoyble and tention free life. with my best wishes and regards. prabhat ranjan conorde1971@rediffmail.com
8/31/02
10:13:34 PM
202.89.67.51
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
hello Jane Fonda-FANs and followers,i am an indian .i believe in honesty and dedication.i have dedicated my life to orphans/poors and have a dream to establish a project for orphans for their betterment and development.since we are now in ruthless world and slowly we are loosing ourall humanity,sentiments,culture and other precious thing so todays its a useless issue to say anything to others for any expectation/support.but as a humanity i would like to send my request to you.i need some sponsorship from you(as your desired).your few precious support will not affect you but it can give me a great way for a great work.hope you will not feel uneasy with my any word.my english is not good as it should be so take it easy.please support me thanks hoping for your good health,enjoyble and tention free life. with my best wishes and regards. prabhat ranjan conorde1971@rediffmail.com
8/31/02
10:12:51 PM
202.89.67.51
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
hello Jane Fonda-fans world.i need your precious help to establish a project for orphans & poors for their education and development. may i expect some sponsorship from Jane Fonda 's fans world? please support me thanks conorde1971@rediffmail.com
8/27/02
11:41:47 AM
24.25.37.109
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
What do you think of the Military
8/24/02
6:25:26 PM
130.13.158.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
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8/23/02
8:11:04 AM
213.1.134.178
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Hotbar 3.0)
murderer
http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.htm
8/9/02
5:50:41 PM
199.72.236.30
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)
Hey Jane...everyone says we could of been twins. I always admired your courage for going in to Vietnam. I know where your heart was unfortunately the big money guys didn't...but they're still playing the game aren't they. Wish you would become active again...maybe this will get your attention. ck out this website on msn.com;www.planetx2003.com (#3&4). This is real. Time is short. God Bless you Use your voice. If you would like my e-mail: velvetblueslb@yahoo.com. I am not aftraid.
8/6/02
8:11:04 PM
65.161.73.251
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
Dear Jane, Although many remember you as "Hanio Jane" and refuse to forgive and forget, I am excited to hear that you have become a Christian and, in doing so, have obtained true forgiveness from God because of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. I am a Christian and have also been a major fan of yours for a long time. Your acting skills are, in my opinion, unparalleled and your hard work and intelligence have combined to result in many first-rate performances. My favorites are Klute, Coming Home, The Chase, Barefoot In The Park, The China Syndrome, and Sunday In New York. May God bless your future endeavors in His will and I encourage you to be a testimony of God's grace to the generations, both young and old. Your greatest fan, Chuck
8/6/02
8:10:55 PM
65.161.73.251
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
Dear Jane, Although many remember you as "Hanio Jane" and refuse to forgive and forget, I am excited to hear that you have become a Christian and, in doing so, have obtained true forgiveness from God because of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. I am a Christian and have also been a major fan of yours for a long time. Your acting skills are, in my opinion, unparalleled and your hard work and intelligence have combined to result in many first-rate performances. My favorites are Klute, Coming Home, The Chase, Barefoot In The Park, The China Syndrome, and Sunday In New York. May God bless your future endeavors in His will and I encourage you to be a testimony of God's grace to the generations, both young and old. Your greatest fan, Chuck
8/3/02
6:43:19 AM
204.255.239.63
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
its the oil companies trying to stone wall cleaning up the oil based chemicals that damage 65 million Americans chromosones, how the movie coming?
8/2/02
2:47:17 AM
12.252.92.158
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; MSOCD; AtHome0200)
Hanoi Jane in all her Glory, sits at an Anti Aircraft Gun in Hanoi and pretends she's shooting down America aircraft. How many American kids grew up without a father because of this "Wonderful??" woman?
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS THE AMERICA THAT HONORS A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
7/26/02
12:18:39 AM
68.20.208.244
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
Jane hi,
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7/22/02
7:37:13 PM
66.57.98.148
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
I was in 'Nam. I remember your visits to our troops in POW camps. You were and are a traitor. Don't ever think you will be forgiven.
7/21/02
6:17:02 PM
205.188.209.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; MSN 2.5; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; Compaq; DigExt)
I am so glad that you are a Christian. I am very proud of you.
7/21/02
12:03:23 PM
208.3.199.95
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2
I though that all of the Jane Fonda fans should read this. Because of her many American P.O.W.'s were brutalizes, tortured and killed. How she lives with herself is beyond me. gundealer@pioneeris.net Subject: The Pledge Of Allegiance- -John S. McCain
> > The Pledge Of Allegiance- -John S. McCain > From a speech made by Capt. John S. McCain, US, (Ret) who
> > represents Arizona in the U.S. Senate: > > > > As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner > > of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our > >imprisonment, > > the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. > > In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into > > large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room. This was, as > > you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the > > efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs > > 10,000 miles from home. > > > > One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named > > Mike Christian. Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. > > He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he > > enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to > > Officer Training School. Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and > > was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and deep > > appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military > >provide > > for people who want to work and want to succeed. > > > > As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some > > prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages > > were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing. Mike got > > himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months, he > > created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt. Every > > > > afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt > > on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance. I know the > > > > Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our > > day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed > >the > > most important and meaningful event. > > > > One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, > > and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed > >it. > > That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the > > > > benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next > >couple > > of hours. Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. > > We cleaned him up as well as we could. > > > > The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on > >which > > we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room. As > > > > I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the > > excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and > >sitting > > there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another > >shirt > > and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting > > > > there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, > > making another American flag. > > > > He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel > >better. > > He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us > > to be able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country. > > > > So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never > > forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have > >made > > to build our nation and promote freedom around the world. > > You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country. > > > > "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America > > and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, > > indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." > > > > PASS THIS ON... and on... and on!!!!!!
>
7/1/02
5:39:36 PM
199.89.20.33
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT)
Keep this moving!
KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget
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6/24/02
5:36:44 PM
63.225.203.236
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This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
6/24/02
5:36:33 PM
63.225.203.236
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
6/20/02
7:11:30 AM
198.208.6.35
Mozilla/4.51 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u)
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. >From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget
6/8/02
9:22:48 PM
195.92.67.69
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
You are one of my all time heros - a truly fantastic actress and committed activist
5/23/02
11:25:16 AM
163.246.82.18
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)
You are a great woman of deep compassion. My the world someday deserve you! Cora,
5/14/02
12:07:31 AM
152.163.201.182
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; MSNIA; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; MSNIA)
The great thing about the internet is that a new generation is learning what a evil person you are. Fuck you bitch!!!
5/13/02
9:49:05 AM
209.96.208.227
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Jane, This information I received and if true is un american of anything I have ever seen.
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es).
He spent 6-years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb.. (My normal weight is 170 lb..) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
If you feel this is incorrect, you may comment. Andy
5/12/02
12:28:52 AM
142.177.9.171
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
From time to time, Jane teaches yoga. Her great workouts are still in production. U can find them on http://www.jane-Fonda.net Jane rules!!!
5/9/02
8:55:01 PM
12.233.253.168
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
hey im a big fan of yours , but i was just wondering whatever happen to your work out videos ???? do you still do those yet?
5/8/02
5:10:36 PM
63.238.217.142
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 95)
Ms. Fonda,
Im not sure the real intent of this email that has been going around. I hear people complain and moan and asking the email be sent around; however, it appears that no one had the guts to email it directly to you. It didnt take a rocket scientist to figure how to get your email address. Youre listed on all the search engines. Im not one to judge others, but if I have a problem with someone Ill attack it head-on, not gossip behind someones back in hopes that theyll see. Whos the coward here?
Devon Vinson Mostevenings@insightbb.com
>----- Original Message ----- >From: rexcowgill >To: Kris Willetts ; Bryan Whittington ; Greaseman ; Joe Mitchell ; RGRANTJOHNSON ; Katie Prompovitch ; James Pennell ; Christopher Grey Miller ; Larry McCampbell ; Ron Lentz ; Grant Johnson ; Bill Hodgin ; HBELEC1@aol.com ; Greg Gilbert ; Michael Friend ; Brad Fitzwater ; Brad Fitzwater ; Brad Fitzwater ; Nancy Erzin ; Craig Wilson Dubbs ; Tim Delawder ; Jacquie Lynn Cipollina ; Steve Byfield ; Duaine Boucher ; Michael Bacha ; Brian Allio >Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:12 AM >Subject: Keep This Moving!!!! > > >This has been around before, but it doesn't hurt to keep it going. > >Rex... > > > > >Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. > >The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. > >During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. > >They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. > >She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. > >I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. > >At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." > >When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. > >I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. > >This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. > >Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. > >
5/5/02
11:55:06 AM
142.177.7.206
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 95; HomePage)
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5/5/02
11:53:59 AM
142.177.7.206
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 95; HomePage)
For all of Jane's great workouts, go to::
5/1/02
12:21:48 PM
24.205.189.144
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Q312461)
5/1/02
12:21:39 PM
24.205.189.144
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Q312461)
4/23/02
11:43:05 AM
63.85.174.26
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
I'm trying to buy an old (approx. 1982) video -- "Jane Fonda's Workout." Can you tell me where I can purchase it?
4/23/02
11:42:57 AM
63.85.174.26
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
I'm trying to buy an old (approx. 1982) video -- "Jane Fonda's Workout." Can you tell me where I can purchase it?
4/23/02
11:42:49 AM
63.85.174.26
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
I'm trying to buy an old (approx. 1982) video -- "Jane Fonda's Workout." Can you tell me where I can purchase it?
4/23/02
11:42:40 AM
63.85.174.26
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
I'm trying to buy an old (approx. 1982) video -- "Jane Fonda's Workout." Can you tell me where I can purchase it?
4/23/02
11:42:32 AM
63.85.174.26
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
I'm trying to buy an old (approx. 1982) video -- "Jane Fonda's Workout." Can you tell me where I can purchase it?
4/22/02
5:51:52 AM
168.187.120.203
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
HI DEAR JANE FONDA; PLESE I WOULD LIKE TO BUY YOUR COMPLETE WORKOUT , SEND TO ME PRICE OF THE TAPE PLEASE
4/19/02
1:07:49 PM
140.140.58.8
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0; T312461)
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
4/18/02
3:00:21 AM
64.86.231.4
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
I would like to find out whether Jane Fonda is still matching $ for $ for programs related to child abuse and FGM in Africa??? Anybody know?
4/11/02
1:21:06 PM
64.218.138.245
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT)
Subject: Hanoi Jane ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
4/11/02
9:37:54 AM
4.22.166.249
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; OTBnet)
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is >>>>for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and >>>>didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and >>>>older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being >>>>honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, >>>>many have forgotten and still countless others have never known >>>>how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but >>>>specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. >>>> >>>>The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name >>>>is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant >>>>of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi >>>>Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, >>>>and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a >>>>visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane >>>>treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and >>>>dragged away. >>>> >>>>During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp >>>>Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the >>>>AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently >>>>ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied >>>>application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan >>>>was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- >>>>the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife >>>>lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the >>>>cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace >>>>delegation" visit. >>>> >>>>They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the >>>>world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece >>>>of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When >>>>paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, >>>>shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets >>>>like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful >>>>for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing >>>>this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of >>>>paper. >>>> >>>>She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line >>>>and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of >>>>the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the >>>>little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent >>>>beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, >>>>which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. >>>> >>>>I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was >>>>captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in >>>>1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary >>>>confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a >>>>"black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately >>>>poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a >>>>leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the >>>>jungle near the Cambodian border. >>>> >>>>At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal >>>>weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." >>>> >>>>When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist >>>>political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. >>>>I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment >>>>we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the >>>>North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and >>>>lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on >>>>my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel >>>>placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms >>>>dipped. >>>> >>>>I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of >>>>hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing >>>>to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. >>>> >>>>This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of >>>>"100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great >>>>women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered >>>>with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have >>>>strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in >>>>blatant treason, is one of them. >>>> >>>>Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly >>>>can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to >>>>know that we will never forget.
4/8/02
5:11:02 PM
207.224.229.185
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
WOW!! I just posted and asked the question about if Jane really gave the ssn of our soldiers to the prision leaders. I pray jane, that you read this. I am 29, my husband is ex-airforce. I lived through him being gone at Dessert Storm and dealing with all sorts of terrorist parties. My 5 year old lived with the fear of daddy never coming home. Thank God, he returned to us safely. I pray that God forgive me, but I hope that you rot in hell. I wish Pres. Bush would try you as a terrorist and find you guilty of Treason. If you do not support America and you do not respect the sacrifice that our service people make every day, Do all of us True Americans a favor, Leave and never come back.
4/8/02
5:01:00 PM
207.224.229.185
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
I have rec'd many e-mails from "vets" of the vietnam war saying things like, when Jane fonda was there they (POW's) had to line up and couldn't talk to her so when they shook her hand, they passed her a slip of paper with their SSN on it, she in turn, gave it to the officials of the prision. causing the Americans to be beat and one to be killed. Is this true? Please e-mail memoree@hotmail.com with your thoughts. Thank you. If it is true, I can't believe Ms. Fonda is being called one of the top women in America.
4/5/02
11:26:31 PM
63.174.204.132
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Fonda Is a TRAITOR to our beloved country and should be brought to justice for her crimes Right now hundreds of people in their late 20's to mid 30's in the U.S. dont have fathers due to this womans actions and she dares to call the Vietnam Veterans baby killers? I have to beg to differ the Viet Cong or V.C. used children as explosives rigging them up so a tender hearted U.S. soldier would pick up the poor child and thus setting off an explosion killing the child and the unsuspecting soldier So Jane Fonda what do you have to say to that? And dont give me this bull about the soldiers killing babies on purpose cause it happens here in the U.S. every, single, day, mothers aborting babies, or stuffing them in garbage cans, or even someone shaking the babies to death those are the baby killers not the majority of the soldiers who fought in Vietnam So spare me your crocodile tears. I will never believe them for the truth Jane Fonda you are a blight on the face of this earth and the children I teach will know the truth and will spit upon your grave when you are dead That is if you are granted a proper burial If you would like to read more on this "EVIL" womans work go to http://www.jane-fonda.com/read_jf.html
4/4/02
3:16:51 PM
209.81.166.131
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and others that are not aware of the actions of a so called actress by the name of Jane Fonda. Those who didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers, brothers ,sisters, children, friends, relatives and comrads had to bear as a result of Fonda's 'sympathy' for our (then) enemies in Southeast Asia. Jane Fonda (nicknamed Hanoi Jane) has been honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." (What kind of slap is that?) Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men in captivity who served and sacrificed during theVietnam war. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. The former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6-years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful or the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot , South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs..) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received that was different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should have never included a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget her betrayal. Hopefully, when she dies she can be flown to Hanoi and buried face down in the country that she so loved. We don't even want her presence here after she is desceased. In fact Jane, if this letter reaches you we would like you to leave NOW and live in Hanoi, Vietnam where you atleast can have the freedom and love you deserve from your heroes in the north of Vietnam. Oh yea, you can take your 'award' with you too. The only people that consider you ''great'' is those that held our Americans captive. So go where you will be appreciated. WE DON'T WANT YOU!!
Russ
4/1/02
10:59:01 AM
65.56.78.119
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
Say, didn't I read an article in a Vet magazine that stated she was directly responsible for the deaths of two POW's while she was wooing the North Vietnamese during the war? Does the word "traitor" come to mind if this has any truth to it? Disregards, James R De Donato Boca Raton, FL mandible@prodigy.net
4/1/02
10:56:33 AM
65.56.78.119
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
Say, didn't I read an article in a Vet magazine that stated she was directly responsible for the deaths of two POW's while she was wooing the North Vietnamese during the war? Does the word "traitor" come to mind if this has any truth to it? Disregards, James R De Donato Boca Raton, FL
4/1/02
10:55:55 AM
65.56.78.119
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
Say, didn't I read an article in a Vet magazine that stated she was directly responsible for the deaths of two POW's while she was wooing the North Vietnamese during the war? Does the word "traitor" come to mind if this has any truth to it?
3/28/02
11:40:15 AM
63.205.215.180
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461)
This is an addendum to an article we published a short while ago. The Webmaster thinks it is of continuing interest to all patriotic Americans. Therefore we are republishing and adding the photo.
If you haven?t already done so you might want to consider forwarding this to your E-mail correspondents.
Hanoi Jane in all her Glory, sits at an Anti Aircraft Gun in Hanoi and pretends she's shooting down America aircraft. How many American kids grew up without a father because of this "Wonderful??" woman.
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
3/27/02
11:36:45 PM
24.100.223.27
Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win95; U)
Who was Jane Fonda's (daughter of Henry Fonda, sister of Peter Fonda) mother?
3/26/02
5:46:47 PM
66.125.152.108
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
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Hanoi Jane in her Glory sitting on a Viet-Cong anti-aircraft gun mount.
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
Go to: http://www.jane-fonda.com/ and copy and paste this directly to Hanoi Jane!
========================================== tdponder@juno.com barbponder@juno.com http://www.angelfire.com/al/TDsFunpage/index.html
3/25/02
4:38:19 PM
63.238.27.50
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
3/25/02
9:51:55 AM
209.225.187.18
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
Go to: http://www.jane-fonda.com/ and copy and paste this directly to Hanoi Jane!
3/25/02
9:26:46 AM
61.9.126.41
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Your father would turn over in his grave if he knew you turned into a bitch and an Amerian Traitor ... piss on you bitch , American soldiers still carry scars because of you witch .....
3/25/02
9:23:38 AM
61.9.126.41
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Your father would turn over in his grave if he knew turned into a bitch and an Amerian Traitor ... piss on you bitch
3/22/02
8:12:46 PM
142.177.113.38
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
<font size="4" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#FF0000">~*~*~*~Jane Fonda~*~*~*~*~<br> <br> Jane Fonda is the most wonderful woman in the world. What she fights for past and present is the best. We love you Jane!! <br> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ </font>
3/22/02
8:09:17 PM
142.177.113.38
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Jane Fonda's BRILLIANT aerobic videos can be purchased from www.ebay.com and just search the word Jane Fonda workout. Her original video is pretty rare and very popular, so it can cost up to $30.00!! Alot of Jane's other videos can be bought for under 10 dollars. http://www.Jane-Fonda.net will have Jane's videos soon.
3/22/02
9:22:21 AM
194.170.168.236
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
how to order your video tapes ,plz explain .
3/20/02
10:41:34 AM
66.168.216.133
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461; Charter B1)
3/20/02
10:40:50 AM
66.168.216.133
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461; Charter B1)
You LOVE IT, don't you Jane? It does not matter WHAT is said about you, or how true it may or may not be -- ONLY that it IS said! You are really nothing more than a traitor, and a stupid cunt at that!
3/19/02
10:00:15 PM
172.129.174.162
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
The least you can do, Jane, is apologize publicly.
********** Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
3/19/02
8:52:41 PM
66.168.216.133
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461; Charter B1)
Hanoi Jane in her Glory sitting on a Viet-Cong anti-aircraft gun mount.
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
========================================== tdponder@juno.com barbponder@juno.com http://www.angelfire.com/al/TDsFunpage/index.html
3/18/02
4:51:11 PM
142.177.11.206
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Why do Americans have such a hang up on Jane Fonda? She has apologised many times for the entire event. American's don't ever address the fact of what THEY were doing in Vietnam, which was killing innocent people. You vets stupidly wonder why the hell you were in POW camps? Well maybe it is because you were bombing and culling innocent people. Camp Xray is just proof that you are hyprocrites, you havn't even physically proven that the Xray campers have had any thing to do with the 911, but it hasn't stopped you from doing the same as the Viet people.
3/18/02
4:51:03 PM
142.177.11.206
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Why do Americans have such a hang up on Jane Fonda? She has apologised many times for the entire event. American's don't ever address the fact of what THEY were doing in Vietnam, which was killing innocent people. You vets stupidly wonder why the hell you were in POW camps? Well maybe it is because you were bombing and culling innocent people. Camp Xray is just proof that you are hyprocrites, you havn't even physically proven that the Xray campers have had any thing to do with the 911, but it hasn't stopped you from doing the same as the Viet people.
3/16/02
12:25:56 PM
152.163.194.211
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98)
I wonder if her relatives will notice the fact that the ground around Hanoi Jane's grave is always wet and smells like a men's restroom?
3/16/02
12:24:50 PM
152.163.194.211
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98)
Hey Jane, we are already planning beer parties, so that we will have plenty of ammunition to p*ss on your grave after you die. Do us a favor, and hurry it up.
3/16/02
12:23:34 PM
152.163.194.211
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98)
Adhering To Their Enemies: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam Front Page Magazine, by Henry Mark Holzer
Original Article
Posted By:I_survived93_2000, 3/16/2002 10:19:45 AM
Fonda had left the United States, traveled to Paris, and, fittingly, flown from there to Moscow. Boarding an Aeroflot flight in the Soviet Capital, apparently incognito, she remained on the airplane when it landed in supposedly neutral Laos, and exited only when she arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam. Clad in black pajamas [typically worn by the Viet Cong in the South] and a white tunic, Jane stepped off her Aeroflot jet on July 8, 1972. . . . She arrived, she told her uniformed, helmeted hosts, with greetings from revolutionary comrades in America...........
Comments: This VET will never forgive or forget!! ...A GOOD STUDY THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO ALL LEFTIST LIBERAL DWEEBS..
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply 1 - Posted by: HILLARY CLINTON IS WHITETRASH, 3/16/2002 10:27:28 AM
Hanoi jane said on "the view" to vets that she was trying to save young american mens lives and they couldint face the fact that the goverment was lying to them......
no jane you werent trying to save the lives of american men...your a commie jane..and a democrat...democrat=communist.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Switchblade, 3/16/2002 10:32:11 AM
Too bad. She should probably be pitied since the denial she is in probably is terminal. That woman is disgusting.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: IamaBushFan, 3/16/2002 10:41:11 AM
Jane Fonda is lower than pond scum.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: grassrootsforever, 3/16/2002 10:54:38 AM
I understand that Jane Fonda is a Christian now. She converted several years ago. But her conversion does not seem to erase the irreparable harm she did to the men and women who were laying down their lives in the 70's, and the harm she did to the morale of our country.
Amazing the effect that one person's actions can have on so many, and the hurt run's very deep. I wonder what she feels about all of this.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: pmahar, 3/16/2002 10:57:09 AM
Hey Jane, we are already planning beer parties, so that we will have plenty of ammunition to p*ss on your grave after you die. Do us a favor, and hurry it up.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: pallis, 3/16/2002 10:59:19 AM
Jane has turned into a drawn up, ugly old hag, her outer-self finally revealing the inner-self. She lacks the integrity to wash off the leftist filth that covers her.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Switchblade, 3/16/2002 11:05:55 AM
I wonder if her relatives will notice the fact that the ground around Hanoi Jane's grave is always wet and smells like a men's restroom?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: dekko, 3/16/2002 11:13:47 AM
She is the perfect example of an extremely stupid person who will be believed regardless of what she says. She should be appearing for a parole board hearing about now rather than being on the streets all these years.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: foont, 3/16/2002 11:13:59 AM
The one thing these leftist nitwits will never talk about is what happened to Vietnam after the US pulled out and the south was "liberated". They will never discuss it because they cannot admit that they supported a regime and a cause that persecuted, imprisoned, tortured and killed tens-of-thousands of people. They backed a cause and a regime that was so hated and feared by the people they "liberated" that the seas were filled with overloaded, unseaworthy boats loaded with tose trying anything they could to flee its clutches.
These are the same people who hated the Shah of Iran and rejoiced in his downfall only to find a regime in his place that made even his worst excesses seem like the hand of enlightened liberalism by comparison. They don't talk about that either.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: wyowumin, 3/16/2002 11:15:57 AM
I hope someone sends a copy of this book to Star Jones and her little friends on the View.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: rmsimms, 3/16/2002 11:19:42 AM
In a just world the liberals would be trying to get her conviction for Treason posthumously reversed.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: ideefixe, 3/16/2002 11:20:36 AM
I fail to understand why she's never apologized and atoned for this. She's changed her mind about nearly everything else.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Ramblin Man, 3/16/2002 11:25:17 AM
Isn't it convenient how she betrayed the United States and gets off the plane at JFK wearing Viet Cong fatigues?
She got more of a reception than our hero soldiers did coming back.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: chocoholic, 3/16/2002 11:39:09 AM
Jane Fonda is the poster girl for all America-hating leftists and the pride of the Democrat Party. She knows that to many millions of Americans, she is scum and always will be. She should be made to pay for her treason.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: William of Carmichael, 3/16/2002 11:40:17 AM
Seriously, a lot of the Fonda quotes seemed to me to be lifted from TV network nightly "news" coverage of the war of that period -- not all of them uttered by employees of the networks but certainly featured commentary of "anti-war" activists. The so-called anti-war movement dominated the news pretty much from 1968 on.
I am really glad to see this getting out but IMO it may be giving the false impression that her actions had such import vis-à-vis the movement here in America to hand the communist a victory.
To this day leftist in universities and the media boast of their role in defeating the U.S. and stopping what they call that "immoral war."
BTW, as I recall on the Clinton's pilgrimage to Hanoi they also donned black pajamas and looked "orgiastic" as they swapped war stories with their hosts.
A lot of what the author writes about sounds awfully contemporary. "Peace-loving", America to blame for all problems. . . .
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Italiano, 3/16/2002 11:41:27 AM
She'll get hers. I just hope I'm around to see it...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Liberty Belle, 3/16/2002 11:42:33 AM
Jane is no longer a worshipping Christian. She found it too stressful to follow the "the rules" by attending church, etc. She's just another 60's success story...
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Agnes Heep, 3/16/2002 11:49:21 AM
These are the same people who hated the Shah of Iran and rejoiced in his downfall only to find a regime in his place that made even his worst excesses seem like the hand of enlightened liberalism by comparison. They don't talk about that either.
Don't forget South Africa.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: farmwife, 3/16/2002 11:49:32 AM
The woman was and is hopelessly dumb. She never did get it that Tom Hayden was using her. Somebody that dumb goes through life trying to matter. Celebrities mostly fit into that category. They are dumb, dumb, dumb! When they are that low wattage they just can't accept it. So many stupid searches for relevance, and they do so much damage. Somebody around them tells them they will show the world how smart they are if they just do this or that. And they so badly want to believe it. They are dupes. Dangerous dupes.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Dolley Madison, 3/16/2002 11:53:04 AM
HANOI JANE; how I remember her!! Will never forget what she did to America.
Can we hope that his can of worms will be reopened now? Let all of America learn of the traitors in their midst.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: MerleDane, 3/16/2002 11:54:39 AM
I hate her. The veterans all hate her. Is there a statute of limitations on treason? And I still believe the story about the POWs giving her slips of paper with their SS#s on them, and her delivering them to the NV. There is no reason not to believe it.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: ph2dingy, 3/16/2002 11:55:57 AM
She called me a WAR CRIMINAL because i stood watch on a six inch gun on the USS Yorktown and because i handled ammo, helping load the ship Kearsarge for duty on Yankee Station off the coast of North Vietnam. Me, a war criminal, right up there with Tojo, Hitler. I wish that we could get advance word of where she is to "appear" for tv shows so I can let her tell me to my face that I am a WAR CRIMINAL (instead of making a speech over the North Vietnamese airwaves) Much about her can be found at ussyorktown.com
I eagerly await her death and burial because I will go to her grave and pi** onto it.
/s/ former petty officer 2nd class
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Reply 23 - Posted by: papabear, 3/16/2002 12:00:23 PM
Christian, my ass. Isn't it convenient that those who commit the most banal of crimes suddenly discover God and expect everyone to forgive them their trespasses. Well, I've got news for you, Janie: NO ONE my age will ever forget or forgive what you did, no matter what religion you eventually espouse.
Have a nice day.
Papabear USAF 1963-1967
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Reply 24 - Posted by: ph2dingy, 3/16/2002 12:01:35 PM
HENRY HOLZER, AID AND COMFORT, AUTHOR: Well, there's no question, as our book proves, that there was sufficient evidence to both indict her and convict her. And the reason for that, Bill, is that the Constitution says treason is intentionally aiding and comforting the enemy. And if I may, I just want to read two very brief quotes. One is by a chief North Vietnamese propagandist and perhaps an old pal of Mr. Hayden's.
"Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses." The second quote is "the international publicity surrounding her trip may have helped prevent U.S. plans for bombing the dikes of North Vietnam." That statement was made by your other guest, Mr. Hayden.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Lady of the Lake, 3/16/2002 12:05:52 PM
Where is Jane today? She might be helping the terrorist in Afghanstan!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: MrSpock, 3/16/2002 12:07:34 PM
Hanoi Jane should be hung, drawn and quatrered. Her head should be set on a pike in front of the Vietnam War Memorial. The rest of her body should be sent to Marin County, Harvard, New York and L.A. to show swhat we do to traitors. The thing is when this smelly c*** finally dies she will probably be cremated, to avoid having her grave being justifiably defiled.
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Adhering To Their Enemies: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam
By Henry Mark Holzer FrontPageMagazine.com | March 15, 2002
Editors Note: The following is an excerpt from Henry Mark Holzers new book Aid and Comfort: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam. The book may be purchased by clicking here.
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ON JULY 11, 1972, a confidential cable from the American embassy in Vientiane, Laos, to the Secretary of State in Washington, the United States delegation at the Paris peace talks, the Commander-in-Chief of Pacific Forces, and our embassy in Saigon, South Vietnam revealed the following:
Subject: Travel to NVN: Jane Fonda
As Dept is likely aware from press reports, actress Jane Fonda arrived in Hanoi 8 July via Aeroflot from Moscow. Subject was not carried as passenger on Aeroflot manifest deposited during Vientiane transit morning July 8 nor did she disembark to transit lounge.
Fonda had left the United States, traveled to Paris, and, fittingly, flown from there to Moscow. Boarding an Aeroflot flight in the Soviet Capital, apparently incognito, she remained on the airplane when it landed in supposedly neutral Laos, and exited only when she arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam. Clad in black pajamas [typically worn by the Viet Cong in the South] and a white tunic, Jane stepped off her Aeroflot jet on July 8, 1972. . . . She arrived, she told her uniformed, helmeted hosts, with greetings from revolutionary comrades in America.
Fonda had come to Hanoi as had Tom Hayden, Joan Baez, and other Americans before her willingly and knowingly to provide grist for the North Vietnamese propaganda mill.
As we noted in the previous chapter, despite the public relations risk of torturing American prisoners of war, the North Vietnamese chanced it because of the high value they placed on propaganda. At no time was this more apparent than in 1967, when the Communists opened yet another POW facility in Hanoi this one devoted specifically to the production and dissemination of propaganda. Among its several prisoner-given names, it is probably best known as the Plantation. The Vietnamese converted a portion of the facility into a Potemkin village of sanitized cells, garden patches, and scrubbed corridors that would serve as a showplace for displaying the captives to visiting delegations and conducting photo sessions and other propaganda activities.
The POWs, however, were not going to play Hanois propaganda game. As weve seen, they resisted torture as best they could. Another method of thwarting the Communists propaganda plans was self-defacement.
Stockdale was convinced that officials at the Hilton were after him to make a movie for PW consumption in which he advised junior officers to cooperate with the captors. To defeat the plan, he tried fasting, then disfigured himself by chopping his hair and scalp with a razor and, when the Vietnamese requisitioned a hat, pounding his face with a stool and against the wall until he was unfit to be photographed or filmed. But the best counterextortion technique proved to be the self-defacement. Painful as it was he had to freshen his bruises with his fists to keep his eyelids swollen and cheekbones mashed it allowed him to regain some measure of control from his tormentors.
Yet, in the face of the heroic, mostly successful, efforts of American POWs to deny the North Vietnamese their much-needed propaganda victories by taking indescribable torture, by voluntarily defacing themselves, by seeing the Plantation for what it was and acting accordingly, and by every other means open to them Jane Fonda handed her Communist hosts a pro-Communist, anti-American propaganda coup.
Why? Again, Fonda biographer Peter Collier understood what was driving the actress-turned-militant: When she arrived in Hanoi, Jane was as malleable as she had been when she returned to the United States after her Paris exile two years earlier ready to find her relevance in the use others could make of her.
And use her, to good effect, the others the Communists would. Indeed, as we shall see in this chapter and even more in the next, the use to which the North Vietnamese put Fonda with her knowing consent and active participation gave them what they needed: legitimacy and favorable propaganda.
Once Fonda was in Hanoi, her Communist hosts laid on a full schedule for their American comrade who had come halfway around the world to assist them in their international propaganda efforts.
In the years since Fondas July 1972 pilgrimage to Hanoi, there have been many reports of what she did there. Some have been accurate, some not. Since our opinion that she could have been indicted and tried for treason rests mostly on Fondas actual pro-Communist, anti-American, propaganda broadcasts and her other conduct in North Vietnam, it is essential to get the facts down correctly. Principally, Fondas activities in North Vietnam fell into four categories. (1) broadcasts some live and some taped under the auspices of Radio Hanoi; (2) meetings with senior Communist officials; (3) tours of civilian and military sites; (4) an interview with seven American prisoners of war.
To set the record straight, lets begin with the broadcasts, which, outside a few government agencies, have never been heard in the United States in their entirety. Indeed, few people outside of government have ever even read the transcripts. There are two categories: (1) Fondas broadcasts to American military personnel, and (2) her broadcasts targeted to others.
From her broadcasts it is apparent that Fonda was addressing not only every American serviceman and woman (enlisted and officer) on the ground in Vietnam and on ships off the coast, but also South Vietnamese soldiers and civilians as well. Her broadcasts were beamed to the jungles of the South, the prisons of the North, and even to Eastern (that is, Communist) Europe.
To the extent there may be any sympathy at all for Fonda among Americans, its probably because theyve never known what she actually said in Hanoi, and what was attributed to her. The list follows:
American pilots were bombing non-military targets, such as hospitals, villages, schools, factories, pagodas, theaters, and dikes.
Americans were using illegal, outlawed weapons, including chemical bombs and chemical toxic gases.
Ordering the use of, and using, these weapons makes one a war criminal.
In the past, users of such weapons were tried and executed.
The Vietnamese people were peasants, leading a peaceful bucolic life before the Americans came to destroy Vietnam.
The Vietnamese seek only freedom and independence, which the United States wants to prevent them from having.
The Vietnamese fighters are her friends.
The million infantry troops the United States put into Vietnam, and the Vietnamization program, have failed.
The United States seeks to turn Vietnam into a neocolony.
Patrick Henrys slogan liberty or death was not very different from Ho Chi Minhs Nothing is more valuable than independence and freedom.
Her meeting with seven U.S. aggressor pilots found them healthy and repentant.
Nixon violated the 1954 Geneva Accords.
Vietnam is one nation, one country.
The Communists proposal for ending the war is fair, sensible, reasonable and humanitarian.
The United States must get out of South Vietnam, and cease its support for the . . . Thieu regime.
I want to publicly accuse Nixon here of being a new-type Hitler whose crimes are being unveiled.
The Vietnamese people will win.
Nixon is continuing to risk your [American pilots] lives and the lives of the American prisoners of war . . . in a last desperate gamble to keep his office come November. How does it feel to be used as pawns? You may be shot down, you may perhaps even be killed, but for what, and for whom?
Can you justify what you are doing?
Nixon defiles our flag and all that it stands for in the eyes of the entire world.
Knowing who was doing the lying, should you then allow these same people and some liars to define for you who your enemy is?
If they told you the truth, you wouldnt fight, you wouldnt kill.
Our parents were having to pay in order to finance, to buy weapons for the French to kill the Vietnamese people.
American troops are fighting for ESSO, Shell and Coca-Cola.
Should we be fighting on the side of the people who are, who are murdering innocent people, should we be trying to defend a government in Saigon which is putting in jail tens of thousands of people into the tiger cages, beating them, torturing them. . . And I dont think . . . that we should be risking our lives or fighting to defend that kind of government.
I am very honored to be a guest in your country, and I loudly condemn the crimes that have been committed by the U.S. Government in the name of the American people against your country.
We have understood that we have a common enemy U.S. imperialism.
We have followed closely the encroachment of the American cancer in the southern part of your country, especially around Saigon. And we hope very soon that, working together, we can remove this cancer from your country . . .
We thank you [the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese] for your brave and heroic fight.
Nixons aggression against Vietnam is a racist aggression, [and] the American war in Vietnam is a racist war, a white mans war . . .
Soldiers of the South Vietnamese army are being sent to fight a war that is not in your interests but is in the interests of the small handful of people who have gotten rich and hope to get richer off this war and the turning of your country into a neocolony of the United States.
We read with interest about the growing numbers of you [South Vietnam Army troops] who are understanding the truth and joining with your fellow countrymen to fight for freedom and independence and democracy. We note with interest, for example, that as in the case of the 56th Regiment of the 3d Division of the Saigon Army, ARVN soldiers are taken into the ranks of the National Liberation Front, including officers who may retain their rank. We think that this is an example of the fact that the democratic, peace-loving, patriotic Vietnamese people want to embrace all Vietnamese people in forgiveness, open their arms to all people who are willing to fight against the foreign intruder.
We know what lies in store for any third world country that could have the misfortune of falling into the hands of a country such as the United States and becoming a colony.
The only way to end the war is for the United States to withdraw all its troops, all its airplanes, its bombs, its generals, its CIA advisors and to stop the support of the Thieu regime in Saigon . . .
There is only one way to stop Richard Nixon from committing mass genocide in the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and that is for a mass protest . . . to expose his crimes . . .
In 1969-1970 the desertions in the American army tripled. The desertions of the U.S. soldiers almost equaled the desertions from the ARVN army . . .
Although we do not condone the killing of American officers . . . we do support the soldiers who are beginning to think for themselves.
American soldiers in Vietnam discovered that their officers were incompetent, usually drunk . . .
Perhaps the soldiers . . . who have suffered the most . . . [are] the black soldiers, the brown soldiers, and the red and Asian soldiers.
Recently I talked to a great many of these guys and they all expressed their recognition of the fact that this is a white mans war, a white businessmans war, that they dont feel its their place to kill other people of color when at home they themselves are oppressed and prevented from determining their own lives.
I heard horrifying stories about the treatment of women in the U.S. military. So many women said to me that one of the first things that happens to them when they enter the service is that they are taken to see the company psychiatrist and they are given a little lecture which is made very clear to them that they are there to service the men.
I think Richard Nixon would do well to read Vietnamese history, particularly their poetry, and particularly the poetry written by Ho Chi Minh.
On that literary suggestion, we can end this summary of Fondas propaganda statements in Hanoi.
Fondas own words . . . make plain beyond any reasonable doubt the intent and import of her statements. They contained lies about the United States, its leaders, their motives, and their acts. They maligned the President of the United States. They spouted the Communist propaganda line in every respect. They sought to undermine the morale and military effort of our soldiers in the field and our prisoners in jungle camps and North Vietnamese prisons.
And her words even encouraged mutiny and desertion.
That there was a consistent pro-Communist, anti-American, propaganda theme to virtually everything uttered by Fonda in her broadcasts from Hanoi, that Fondas statements reveal a clear intent to aid the North Vietnamese and injure the United States, cannot be disputed.
Although more detailed analyses of Fondas Hanoi propaganda statements are found in the next chapter, which address her statements impact, it is useful to emphasize a related point here. Consider some of the statements made by this young actress who lacked political sophistication, who was ignorant of history, who had an almost non-existent knowledge of international affairs, and who probably had never before written anything more complicated than a check: neocolonialism, the 1954 Geneva Accords, what constituted a military target, different types of aircraft and ordnance, the Anglico reference, and more. It is obvious that in Hanoi, Jane Fonda was acting as a willing tool of the Communists, to a considerable extent simply reading canned material created by professional Communist propagandists (albeit perhaps with an occasional ad-lib). Indeed, some of the words and syntax are those of a person or persons for whom English was not a first language, and it is doubtful that the political language came from Fonda herself.
But Fondas broadcasts were not her only statements in aid of the North Vietnamese. In addition to the live broadcasts made by Fonda on Hanoi Radio, and replayed endlessly not only throughout Vietnam but also within the Northern prison camps, she made many other statements while being escorted around the city and its environs to view what her hosts claimed were bombed-out civilian installations like schools and hospitals. Examples abound. She was taken to a hamlet called Hong Phong, and afterward the North Vietnamese issued a news release saying that the day before Fondas visit American bombing had killed two elderly people and adding that Jane Fonda felt great indignation at the U.S. attack on civilian populations. As some of her propaganda broadcasts indicated, she was taken to see dikes allegedly destroyed the day before. In her assessment, read the Hanoi news release, the U.S. had made deliberate attacks on dikes to jeopardize life and terrorize the people. At a press conference she said that every evidence of bombing that she had seen was directed at a nonmilitary target.
As to Fondas tours, it is noteworthy that virtually on her first day in Hanoi she was taken to the North Vietnam Communists War Crimes museum, which displayed ordnance and artifacts allegedly used by American forces in Vietnam.
But even worse than her War Crimes museum tour, Fondas most notorious visit was to the site of a Communist antiaircraft gun, which was used to blast American pilots and their planes out of the sky. Even many of Fondas supporters were shocked and disgusted to see the helmeted Fonda smiling, clapping, shaking hands, and otherwise fraternizing with the weapons crew. Film of this episode makes clear beyond any doubt whatsoever that Fonda was enjoying herself greatly; indeed, she looks nearly orgiastic. Fraternizing with the gun crew was obscene enough. But then Fonda climbed into the anti-aircraft weapons control seat, put her eye to the sight, and feigned taking a bead on imaginary American aircraft. The Communist crew smiled and applauded. The North Vietnamese propagandists had a field-day, and French and other cameramen distributed the film worldwide. The photos caption reads: American actress and activist Jane Fonda is surrounded by soldiers and reporters as she sings an anti-war song near Hanoi during the Vietnam War in July 1972. Fonda, seated on an anti-aircraft gun, is here to encourage North Vietnamese soldiers fighting against American Imperialist Airraiders. She is wearing a helmet and Vietnamese-made ao-dai pantaloon and blouse.
In addition to this photo-op, there were many others with workers, peasants, students, artists and dancers, historians, journalists, film actresses, soldiers, militia girls, members of the womens union, writers especially when Fonda met and socialized with high-ranking North Vietnamese officials. At the end of her trip, she spent some time with Nguyen Duy Trinh, Vice Premier of North Vietnam. Fonda told him that she was deeply impressed by the Vietnamese peoples determination to emerge victorious. She also told the Vice Premier that his people would certainly triumph over the Americans.
Even worse than Fonda's broadcasts, her photo-op tours, and her chumminess with North Vietnamese Communists, was her encounter with American POWs being held captive in Hanoi. Since one of the two essential elements of the crime of treason is adhering to the enemy that is, committing an overt act it is unfortunate that there has been so much erroneous reportage about Fondas interaction with American POWs in Hanoi. The fact is that Fonda is not guilty of certain acts attributed to her, but she is certainly guilty of others.
Lets set the record straight. It has been reported in recent years on the Internet that POWs surreptitiously slipped Fonda messages which she turned over to the North Vietnamese. That story is false. Also untrue is that any POW died for refusing to meet with Fonda.
It is true, however, that POWs were unwillingly made to meet with Fonda.
Needless to say, Fonda quickly lied about her meeting with the Hanoi Hilton POWs, continuing to parrot the North Vietnamese propaganda line:
This is Jane Fonda speaking from Hanoi. Yesterday evening . . . I had the opportunity of meeting seven U.S. pilots. Some of them were shot down as long ago as 1968 and some of them had been shot down very recently. They are all in good health. We had a very long talk, a very open and casual talk. We exchanged ideas freely. They asked me to bring back to the American people their sense of disgust of the war and their shame for what they have been asked to do.
They told me that the pilots believe they are bombing military targets.
They told me that the pilots are told that they are bombing to free their buddies down below, but, of course, we all know that every bomb that falls on North Vietnam endangers the lives of the American prisoners.
They asked me: What can you do? They asked me to bring messages back to their loved ones and friends, telling them to please be as actively involved in the peace movement as possible, to renew their efforts to end the war.
One of the men who has been in the service for many, many years has written a book about Vietnamese history, and I thought that this was very moving, that during the time hes been here, and the time that he has had to reflect on what he has been through and what he has done to this country, he has his thought has turned to this country, its history of struggle and the people that live here.
They all assured me that they have been well cared for. They they listen to the radio. They receive letters. They are in good health. They asked about news from home.
I think we all shared during the time I spent with them a sense of of deep sadness that a situation like this has to exist, and I certainly felt from them a very sincere desire to explain to the American people that this was is a terrible crime and that it must be stopped, and that Richard Nixon is doing nothing except escalating it while preaching peace, endangering their lives while saying he cares about the prisoners.
And I think that one of the things that touched me the most was that one of the pilots said to me that he was reading a book called The Draft, a book written by the American Friends Service Committee [Quakers], and that in reading this book, he had understood a lot about what had happened to him as a human being in his 16 years of military service. He said that during those 16 years, he had stopped relating to civilian life, he had forgotten that there was anything else besides the military and he said in realizing what had happened to him, he was very afraid that this was happening to many other people.
I was very encouraged by my meeting with the pilots [because] I feel that the studying and the reading that they have been doing during their time here has taught them a great deal in putting the pieces of their lives back together again in a better way, hopefully, and I am sure that when when they go home, they will go home better citizens than when they left.
This live broadcast by Hanoi Jane, directed to American troops, free and captive, throughout North Vietnam, was blatantly false.
The prisoners were not all in good health.
Fonda did not have a very long talk with them.
The meeting was not very open and casual.
They did not exchange ideas freely.
The prisoners did not express their sense of disgust of the war and their shame for what they have been asked to do.
They did not ask Fonda to encourage their loved ones and friends . . . to please be as actively involved in the peace movement as possible.
They did not assure her that they have been well cared for.
They did not express a very sincere desire to explain to the American people that this was a terrible crime and that it must be stopped, and that Richard Nixon is . . . endangering their lives while saying he cares about the prisoners.
These lies were simply more canned North Vietnamese propaganda, broadcast in furtherance of Fondas intent to damage the United States and help the North Vietnamese.
Can it be said that these lies, and the rest of what Fonda said and did in Hanoi, could have been construed by a jury as having provided aid and comfort to our North Vietnamese enemy? Well have the answer in the next chapter. For now, suffice it to note the words of an American POW who would later become a United States Congressman: In the summer of 1972, the voice of Jane Fonda hung in the air over Camp Unity. Our camp guards and the commander were overjoyed to have a celebrity of her status come over and align herself with their humane cause. Ill never forget seeing a picture of her seated on an antiaircraft gun, much like the one that had shot my plane out of the air and given seven years of my life to the North Vietnamese prison system. I stood in front of her photograph in a quiz [interrogation] room and stared in disbelief until the twisting in my gut made me turn away. While Sam Johnson was revolted by Fondas visit, a prominent North Vietnam colonel/journalist, Bui Tin, saw the value of her presence in Hanoi: That visit and the support it showed had great impact on the Vietnamese people We realized that there were two Americas one who dropped bombs on us, and the other who had sympathy.
From Paris, having spent nearly a month in North Vietnam consorting with Americas enemy ¾ by making broadcasts, by meeting with senior Communist officials, by touring civilian and military sites, by interviewing American prisoners of war ¾ Fonda returned to New York. She landed at Kennedy Airport ¾ reportedly wearing the black pajamas and coolie hat of the Viet Cong.
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Dude, you are talking out of your ass. You have no idea what happend. Having to resort to petty lieing is sad. America had no right to be in Vietnam, invited or not. It is funny how no one mentions about how many people Americans and your self killed with cowardess above air bombing
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Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
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How can anyone be a fan of a woman who betrayed her own country and now wants to be loved by those she betrayed? Don't worry Hanoi Jane, we won't forget you!
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142.177.114.26
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Jane, You and every thing you stand for is the things should be written in gold! America had no right to be in Vietnam, bombing innocent people. The people on here have no idea!! They are all brought up on the standard American education, brainwashing every one in the thinking that any thing other than capitalism is evil. I have read your books, and it made me cry how you said that the dead were burried in the rice fields to keep the circle of life. Only to see that the US troops bombed it. The most people on here are either red necks or just hillybillys with guns. The Americans can't get over the concept that they shouldn't have been there, even if they were invited. Little people seem to know that war is a capital venture, no wonder the then breaking economy jumped to the chance to bomb innocent people. You rock! Long live Jane!!!
Jane, You and every thing you stand for is the things should be written in gold! America had no right to be in Vietnam, bombing innocent people. The people on here have no idea!! They are all brought up on the standard American education, brainwashing every one in the thinking that any thing other than capitalism is evil. I have read your books, and it made me cry how you said that the dead were burried in the rice fields to keep the circle of life. Only to see that the US troops bombed it. The most people on here are either red necks or just hillybillys with guns. The Americans can't get over the concept that they shouldn't have been there, even if they were invited. Little people seem to know that war is a capital venture, no wonder the then breaking economy jumped to the chance to bomb innocent people. You rock! Long live Jane
Jane, You and every thing you stand for is the things should be written in gold! America had no right to be in Vietnam, bombing innocent people. The people on here have no idea!! They are all brought up on the standard American education, brainwashing every one in the thinking that any thing other than capitalism is evil. I have read your books, and it made me cry how you said that the dead were burried in the rice fields to keep the circle of life. Only to see that the US troops bombed it. The most people on here are either red necks or just hillybillys with guns. The Americans can't get over the concept that they shouldn't have been there, even if they were invited. Little people seem to know that war is a capital venture, no wonder the then breaking economy jumped to the chance to bomb innocent people. You rock! Long live Jane
3/8/02
5:55:01 AM
208.60.230.98
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Your actions in 1972 will always be remembered. You should have been arrested for treason. Taking out the hysteria reporting and looking at only the facts: You made it clear by your own words that you supported communism, were against "American Imperialism", denounced our USA Soldiers as "baby killers","liars" and murders,made several broadcasts from Hanoi, sponsored by our enemy, instructing American GIs to ignore their orders and desert their posts,lauded the North Vietnamese government, and insulted every member of the US Armed Forces. Did I leave anything out? The false reports of you being the direct cause of our soldiers being murdered by their captors are without excuse. Nonetheless, the truth is sufficient to have cause action against you for Sedition. Your "apology" for being "thoughtless" on the Oprah Winfrey Show was a disgrace. "Thoughtless" doesn't cut it. In returen for your good fortune of not being prosecuted for sedition, one would think you would have the graciousness in your old age of appearing in a public venue and decrying your actions in the 1970s..those actions which demoralized our fighting men and gave implicit support to the enemy. You, Madam, are a diagrace to America. My suggestion is that you live out the remainder of your existance living in a hut in North Viet Nam where you truly can be hailed as a heroine.
3/7/02
9:02:38 PM
150.137.14.8
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
Jane Fonda is nothing less than a TRAITOR to everything the US stands for. While U.S. Soldiers were being tortured just blocks away she was spouting her communist drivel over the radio. The very thought of this woman makes me physically ill.
3/2/02
10:49:01 PM
64.211.112.185
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.5; Mac_PowerPC)
Jane fonda deserves to burn in hell for what she did in nam. her actions caused the deaths of several u.s. soldiers.
2/26/02
3:25:18 AM
195.230.176.86
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2
<http://www.geocities.com/onthewingsofadream/hanoiJane2.gif> Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. `Does THIS Woman Deserve to be Honored as One of AMERICA'S 100 Top Women? Least We Forget: History Does Have a Tendancy To Repeat Itself! [nav] undefined [nav] undefined More... [nav] undefined [Close] <http://visit.geocities.com/visit.gif?&r=&b=Netscape%205.0%20%28Windows%3B%20en-US%29&s=1024x768&o=Win32&c=32&j=true&v=1.2> [1]
2/25/02
5:47:43 PM
208.187.168.99
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461)
2/24/02
7:20:16 PM
12.65.0.35
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Q312461)
You are a disgrace to your country and your family, traitor
2/21/02
10:34:04 AM
205.188.199.177
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
TRAITOR
2/20/02
11:49:50 PM
209.214.52.69
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461)
You were are a Traitor Jane.........
VietNam Vet
2/20/02
6:18:40 PM
12.64.181.144
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Q312461)
Traitor
2/20/02
5:13:04 PM
24.237.152.145
Mozilla/4.79 [en] (Win98; U)
Hanoi JERK!!!
2/20/02
4:08:31 PM
67.213.64.39
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PeoplePC 1.0; Toshiba; Q312461)
Dear Jane, Base on recent remarks by Ted Turner, I am sorry you are divorced. You deserve each other. Sincerely, Bob Freeman Vietnam Vet
2/20/02
3:33:28 PM
66.44.42.195
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
Don't listen to those who "THINK" they like you........You ARE a TRAITOR, you low-life scumbag!
2/20/02
3:28:40 PM
66.44.42.195
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
TRAITOR!
2/20/02
3:20:58 PM
12.32.63.164
Mozilla/4.79 [en] (Win98; U)
You are a TRAITOR!! HANOI JANE!!
2/20/02
3:00:56 PM
63.226.25.85
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Compaq; T312461; Q312461)
You are a rotton, low life, lower than a snakes's belly traitor (among other disgusting things). I hope you rot in hell!
2/20/02
11:20:55 AM
167.127.24.26
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT; C8)
Subject: Lest we forget her!
Hanoi Jane in all her Glory, sits at an Anti Aircraft Gun in Hanoi and pretends she's shooting down America aircraft. How many American kids grew up without a father because of this "Wonderful??" woman.
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR. This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
2/19/02
10:01:28 AM
208.187.206.153
Mozilla/4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
Is this true?
Dear True American's > This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW inHo Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6-years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked > disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb.lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lb.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. > >Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. >
2/18/02
8:21:58 PM
142.59.130.49
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
DEAR, JANE My name is Jim Glazier, from 4308 42 AVE. #20 Rock MTN.. House Alberta, Canada . And I need the help of someone with great influence over people and the resources to convince people they can protect there property. I am not trying to get a hand out, but perhaps some kind of business venture where we both can make money. I have been interested in vehicle security since 1997. I get sick when I hear of peoples property stolen , damaged , and even lives lost from such a preventable problem as car theft. I have looked at many vehicle security devices and there weakness, and endeavored to build a device that is easy to install and also user friendly, and very difficult to remove. I have built prototypes, and have used one on my vehicle for three years even in big cities, and always felt comfortable that my car would always be there where I parked it. I also installed one on an old truck in an auto wreaker and it took three big men 4min. 56 seconds to remove it, only by braking the floorboard because of too ridged a base. This has since been redesigned to be flexible. It was encouraging to see one person could not remove it. It is loose enough installed, that it cannot be cut with a hacksaw, since it is made with good strong steel. The lock cannot be frozen because it is incased with steel and a small air space. These men ! tried with hammers and feet to remove it and only exhausted themselves. Since joy rides and theft of vehicles for the purpose of committing a crime are the main reasons for general auto theft, I know this will be a very good and secure type of vehicle theft deterrent. I have a U.S. patent and applied for an international patent with the help of a company in Ireland, who have done up for me a confidential research report, on North America, and Europe and are at this time trying to find manufactures all around the world that would be interested in building this device that I call "Brake Lock. There is some simple electronics that serve as a trade mark, as well as takes care of the brake light problem. I recently have had interest from England and Illinois and hope to get a positive response from them. Auto theft is a huge problem everywhere. I know it will make a difference. But it will only make a difference if people will use it. If I could give you more information that might convince you, perhaps you may be interested in being a part of this venture. .P lease, if you want more information or have questions please get in touch with me at my E-Mail address ( cadillacjim @msn.com) Thank you, I look forward to hearing from you . PH.& FAX (604) 845-7244
2/11/02
7:09:28 PM
142.177.79.75
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
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2/10/02
12:22:57 PM
209.23.99.234
Mozilla/4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; U)
This is going to seem like a funny question. I have been doing my Jane Fonda workout for 20 yes 20 years. It was my favorite workout and it broke. I am desperate. Can you tell me where I can find a new tape? The date is 1982. It was called JANE FONDA'S WORKOUT. That is the only thing that was written on the entire tape. HELP!!!!
2/10/02
10:40:48 AM
68.2.92.153
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; MSOCD)
This was sent to me
NEVER FORGET
Jane Fonda in her Glory sitting on a North Vietnamese antiaircraft gun mount. It appears this traitors act is only remembered by e.g. Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
2/1/02
4:20:10 PM
12.20.190.1
Mozilla/4.61 [en] (WinNT; U)
My name is Nancy Fingerhood and I recently saw an interview on a morning news show with Jane Fonda. She was talking about empowering girls. A few years ago I created a program called G.A.I.N.S (Girls Achieving in Non-traditional Sports) in which I raised money and provided inner city girls the opportunity to play sports such as football and hockey. They really loved it and I got some press coverage. I felt that if you give the girls the opportunity to do something many of them will take it and run with it. They felt special because this program was just for them and they learned they can do anything they want in life. I chedked with the Women's Sports Foundation and found out it is the only program of its kind in the country. I would like to re-create the program on a bigger scale and since Jane Fonda is dedicated to both girls' empowerment and fitness I wanted to discuss this program with her and how we can collaborate. I have many press clippings. Can anyone give me an address where she can receive the information? My email address is nancyfing@yahoo.com. Thanks for your help.
1/27/02
9:12:07 PM
142.177.114.162
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!! Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! Don't listen to these red neck hicks that just like to moan since they aren't even serving in the current war. and your tapes are wonderful!!Jane, you are NOT a traitor, every thing you stand and stould for is supported by loads more people than you will know. You are a wonderful person!!! 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1/27/02
12:01:36 AM
211.41.88.176
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
> > >> Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is > > >>for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and > > >>didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and > > >>older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored > > >>as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have > > >>forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. > > >>Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men > > >>who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. > > >> > > >>The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is > > >>Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the > > >>USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." > > >>Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and > > >>dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting > > >>American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd > > >>received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. > > >> > > >>During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp > > >>Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF > > >>Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended > > >>his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of > > >>a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the > > >>47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first > > >>three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith > > >>that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, > > >>clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. > > >> > > >>They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world > > >>that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, > > >>with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before > > >>Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's > > >>hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry > > >>you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment > > >>from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, > > >>they each palmed her their sliver of paper. > > >> > > >>She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line > > >>and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of > > >>the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the > > >>little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. > > >> Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is > > >>the only reason we know about her actions that day. > > >> > > >>I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was > > >>captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in > > >>1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary > > >>confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a > > >>"black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately > > >>poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium > > >>in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near > > >>the Cambodian border. > > >> > > >>At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal > > >>weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." > > >> > > >>When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist > > >>political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I > > >>said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we > > >>POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North > > >>Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." > > >>Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees > > >>with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my > > >>hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. > > >> > > >>I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours > > >>after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to > > >>debate me on TV. She did not answer me. > > >> > > >>This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of > > >>"100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great > > >>women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with > > >>the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong > > >>visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant > > >>treason, is one of them. > > >> > > >>Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly > > >>can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to > > >>know that we will never forget.
1/26/02
11:17:25 PM
24.197.38.50
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Q312461)
When I was at Camp Pendleton receiving combat corpsman training, I noticed that the pickup truck belonging to the gunnery sergeant in charge of our training was adorned with bumper stickers containing extremely unflattering remarks about Jane Fonda. I also noticed a few referred to Ms. Fonda and Vietnam, but at the time I honestly had no idea why. Being an E-5 and close to rank to our E-7 gunny, after a training rotation one afternoon I decided to ask him about those stickers, and what they had to do with Fonda.
He muttered a few obscenities and proceeded to tell me the story. Fonda, he said, became a traitor during the Vietnam War -- a war in which "gunny" had served two tours and for which he had received three Purple Hearts (which is why he enjoyed training Navy corpsmen to be Marine Corps combat corpsmen -- they'd saved his life a time or two).
The following excerpts are not "gunny's" words, but when received them in an e-mail recently, it reminded me of his story. And, as ABC's Barbara Walters prepares to honor the traitorous Jane Fonda during Walters' "100 years of great women" program soon, I thought the American people needed to hear this story again. You see, Fonda isn't just exercise videos and the third wheel in "Nine to Five" (the movie).
* * * * * * * "There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions.
"In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School, a colonel, was a former POW in Ho Lo Prison -- the Hanoi Hilton. Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off -- which sent that officer berserk.
"In '78, the AF colonel still suffered from double vision -- permanently grounding him -- from the Vietnamese officer's frenzied application of a wooden baton.
"From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was 347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd spent 6 [product] years in the Hilton -- the first three of which he was listed as MIA. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit.
"They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like, 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and, 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?'"
"Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of notes.
"Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four.
"For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs, including Col. Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on charges of treason. I don't know that they used it, but the charge of 'Negligent Homicide due to Depraved Indifference' would also seem appropriate. Her obvious 'granting of aid and comfort to the enemy' alone should've been sufficient for the treason count. However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally charged with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich and famous.
"I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry.
"Part of our shortfall is ignorance: Most don't know such actions ever took place.
"The only addition I might add to these sentiments is to remember the satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some air base or another where 'zaps' of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied."
And there is this account:
"I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I later buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
"At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb. [my normal weight is 170 lb.). We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals.'"
"When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as 'humane and lenient.' Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel re-bar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped.
"Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment. Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her feature "100 Years of Great Women." Shame on the Disney Company.
"I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband (at the time), Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored by '100 Years of Great Women.'"
"After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the anti-war movement. I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.
"Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars. After her heroes -- the North Vietnamese communists -- took over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever."
In the words of Paul Harvey, America, "now you know the rest of the story."
ABC and Babs Walters will undoubtedly include "Hanoi" Jane in their televised celebration because their black souls are too hardened and too imbued with an anti-American sentiment to do anything else. And ultimately, they will all answer for what they have done in their lives. In the meantime, I don't plan on watching anything that has Jane Fonda's face anywhere near it. I won't buy her videos; I won't rent or go see her movies. As far as I'm concerned, she's already dead to me.
Whether or not you agreed with the war in Vietnam, whether you're a Vietnam vet or a former member of the protest movement, or whether you're too old or too young to have been there, the behavior of Jane Fonda towards our own military men is reprehensible beyond belief. All I ask is that you think about these accounts the next time you see her. Let your conscience guide your actions from there.
Origins: The right to freedom of speech is one of our most cherished rights. It is also a double-edged sword: the same right that allows us to criticize our government's policies without fear of reprisal also protects those who endorse and promote racism, anti-semitism, ethnic hatred and other socially divisive positions.
Rarely is this dichotomy so evident as when a democratic nation engages in war, and the protection of civil liberties clashes head-on with the exigencies of a war effort. Protesting a government's involvement in a war without also interfering in the prosecution of that war is a difficult (if not impossible) feat, a situation that has sometimes led the government to curtail the freedom of speech, such as when the U.S. Sedition Act (passed during World War I) made criminals of those who would "willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States." Under this law, peacefully urging citizens to resist the draft or simply drawing an editorial cartoon critical of the government became illegal. (The Sedition Act was later overturned.)
The most prominent example of a clash between private citizen protest and governmental military policy in recent history occurred in July 1972, when actress Jane Fonda arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam, and began a two-week tour of the country conducted by uniformed military hosts. Aside from visiting villages, hospitals, schools, and factories, Fonda also posed for pictures in which she was shown applauding North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunners, was photographed peering into the sights of an NVA anti-aircraft artillery launcher, and made ten propagandistic Tokyo Rose-like radio broadcasts in which she denounced American political and military leaders as "war criminals." She also spoke with eight American POWs at a carefully arranged "press conference," POWS who had been tortured by their North Vietnamese captors to force them to meet with Fonda, deny they had been tortured, and decry the American war effort. Fonda apparently didn't notice (or care) that the POWs were delivering their lines under duress or find it unusual the she was not allowed to visit the prisoner-of-war camp (commonly known as the "Hanoi Hilton") itself. She merely went home and told the world that "[the POWs] assured me they were in good health. When I asked them if they were brainwashed, they all laughed. Without exception, they expressed shame at what they had done." She did, however, charge that North Vietnamese POWs were systematically tortured in American prison-of-war camps.
To add insult to injury, when American POWs finally began to return home (some of them having been held captive for up to nine years) and describe the tortures they had endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese, Jane Fonda quickly told the country that they should "not hail the POWs as heroes, because they are hypocrites and liars." Fonda said the idea that the POWs she had met in Vietnam had been tortured was "laughable," claiming: "These were not men who had been tortured. These were not men who had been starved. These were not men who had been brainwashed." The POWs who said they had been tortured were "exaggerating, probably for their own self-interest," she asserted. She told audiences that "Never in the history of the United States have POWs come home looking like football players. These football players are no more heroes than Custer was. They're military careerists and professional killers" who are "trying to make themselves look self-righteous, but they are war criminals according to law."
Were Jane Fonda's actions treason, or were they the exercise of a private citizen's right to freedom of speech? At the time, the legal aspects of this question were moot: President Nixon was engaged in trying to wind down American involvement in Vietnam and had to face another election in a few months, so politically he had far more to lose than to gain by making a martyr out of a prominent anti-war activist. (No requirement in either the Constitution or federal law states that the U.S. must be engaged in a declared war -- or any war at all -- before charges of treason can be brought against an individual.)
On the one hand, Jane Fonda provided no tangible military assistance to the North Vietnamese: she divulged no military secrets, she gave them no money or material, and she did not interfere with the operations of the American forces. Her actions, offensive as they were to many, were primarily of propaganda value only. On the other hand, Iva Ikuko Toguri (also known as "Tokyo Rose") was convicted of treason for making propaganda broadcasts on behalf of the Japanese during World War II (although she claimed her betrayal was forced and was eventually pardoned many years later by President Gerald Ford), and Fonda's efforts could fall under the definition of "giving aid and comfort to the enemy." It is also undeniable that some American soldiers came to harm as a direct result of Fonda's actions, an outcome she should reasonably have anticipated.
The most serious accusations in the piece quoted above -- that Fonda turned over slips of paper furtively given her by American POWS to the North Vietnamese and that several POWs were beaten to death as a result -- are proveably untrue. Those named in the inflammatory e-mail categorically deny the events they supposedly were part of.
"It's a figment of somebody's imagination," says Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan, one of the servicemen mentioned in the 'slips of paper' incident. Carrigan was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967 and did spend time in a POW camp. He has no idea why the story was attributed to him. "I never met Jane Fonda."
The tale about a defiant serviceman who spit at Jane Fonda and is severely beaten as a result is often attributed to Air Force pilot Jerry Driscoll. He has repeatedly stated on the record that it did not originate with him.
The story about a POW forced to kneel on rocky ground while holding a piece of steel rebar in his outstretched arms is true, though. That account comes from Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. His original statement, titled "Shame on Jane," was published in April by the Advocacy and Intelligence Network for POWs and MIAs.
The unknown author of the "Hanoi Jane" e-mail appears to have picked up Benge's story on-line and combined it with fabricated tales to create the forwarded text. Some versions now circulate with Benge's name listed; others quote his statement anonymously.
In fact, Fonda carried home letters from many American POWs to their families upon her return from North Vietnam, and rumors that a POW was beaten to death when he refused to meet with her were nothing more than rumors. Still, legally treasonous or not, Jane Fonda's actions merit the contempt felt towards her, and her inclusion in ABC's 30 April 1999 "A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women" rightly angered many who failed to see what was so "great" about this woman. She didn't go to North Vietnam to try to bring about peace or to reconcile the two warring sides or to stop American boys from being killed; she went there as an active show of support for the North Vietnamese cause. She lauded the North Vietnamese military and citizens while she denounced American soldiers as "war criminals" and urged them to stop fighting, she lobbied to cut off all American economic aid to the South Vietnamese government even after the Paris Peace Accords ended U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, and she publicly thanked the Soviets for providing assistance to the North Vietnamese. And she did all this not as a reckless youth who rashly spouted ill-considered opinions now best forgotten, but as a 34-year-old adult who should be expected to bear full responsibility for her actions.
In 1988, sixteen years after denouncing American soldiers as war criminals and tortured POWs as possessed of overactive imaginations, Fonda met with Vietnam veterans to apologize for her actions. It's interesting to note that this nationally-televised apology (during which she attempted to minimize her actions by characterizing them as "thoughtless and careless") came at a time when New England vets were successfully disrupting a film project she was working on. It's also interesting that not only was this apology delivered sixteen years after the fact, but it has not been offered again since. More than a few have read a huge dollop of self-interest into Fonda's 1988 apology. (Finally, in an interview in 2000, almost thirty years after the fact, Fonda admitted: "I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft carrier, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless.")
Whether the war was right or wrong, those who risked (and gave) their lives fighting it deserve respect, and for Fonda to brand men who were held captive and tortured as "liars" and "hypocrites" (despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary) in order to defend her political views was and is unpardonable.
1/23/02
8:52:52 AM
63.160.25.199
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
1/22/02
3:41:36 PM
208.237.135.21
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
1/21/02
11:44:55 PM
65.32.28.245
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461)
Dear Jane Seymour Fonda, a.k.a. Hanoi Jane,
How wonderful to know you have once again graced Americans with your particular brand of patriotism. Congratulations also for your upcoming 64th birthday, Dec. 21st, 2001. I know of no other place on this planet where you could have been permitted to be an enemy of a nation since 1971 and not be placed in jail or executed for treason. It is for your freedom Americans are willing to sacrifice their lives, Ms Fonda. As you have not mellowed at all since your shows of patriotism in Hanoi, I don't expect you to understand that.
Sharing your infinite wisdom with us Thursday, Sept. 20, 2001, on Atlanta Radio Station WMXV-FM, you advised that we "try to understand the underlying causes" of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. I regret to inform you that we do understand those underlying causes. Apparently it is you who does not understand that more than 6,000 American citizens were killed at the hands of terrorists. But it is not those whom you talk about is it? You do not know or care how many children were killed, or how many innocent pregnant women were killed, how many families are fatherless now. You want us instead to consider the plight of the terrorists:
"I think it has to be dealt with as a crime," you are quoted. "And when there's a crime, you don't bomb a city or a country --- you use very, very clever intelligence, undercover-type operations to get the criminals and punish them, and then you try to understand the underlying causes of the crime."
A hold up at your local convenience store is a crime, Ms Fonda. What happened on Sept. 11th in America is an attempt toward genocide. You seem to make no distinction. Are you fey?
Instead, you wish for us to understand the terrorists' underlying causes. Do you want to feel their pain, Afgan Jane?
Many Americans, like the firemen and police of New York City, would LOVE for you to feel the terrorists' pain --- Why don't you make one of your little political trips to Afghanistan, Ms Fonda, and find Osama bin Laden and comfort him: feel his pain: really FEEL it when we get to him. Then maybe we will use very, very, clever intelligence to make sure that you feel his pain just as well!
Oh, by the way. Hate the exercise tapes.
1/18/02
7:00:17 AM
204.255.236.137
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Ted couldn't help it the devil made him do it. Him and the Chemical companies that dump chemicals that cause cancer and then buy off the Corp with a hydrology lab
12/24/01
5:33:05 AM
204.255.239.169
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
A completely corrupt political system is killing 2 million americans each year to protect Ford and G.E. from class action law suite for 85,000 agent Orange victims
12/22/01
8:36:52 PM
64.12.107.37
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
We love you Jane Fonda!
12/20/01
3:00:38 PM
144.9.158.98
Mozilla/4.75 [en]C-CCK-MCD EDS Intranet - Build Date - [06-15-2001]-E (Win95;
U)
Hi Hanoi Jane. You probably don't remember me. I remember you!
B/2/327th 101st 1st brigade
12/20/01
6:22:37 AM
204.255.236.97
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
62 million dead soon to be 64 million because of political corruption of U.S. politics which want steerable contracts under the DOD's control
12/17/01
7:09:19 AM
204.255.236.186
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Where is Ted Turner when you need him? Out sailing I guess many illneses are water borne and transmitted so to cure the problem the water has to be cleaned.
12/16/01
6:44:50 AM
204.255.239.102
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Corp stone walls contractors value engineering award while millions of cancer patents continue to die from contaminat- ed water supply while Corp takes kickbacks
12/15/01
2:48:30 PM
204.255.238.193
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Branch Davidians May 19 1993, Murrah Bldg May 19-1995 and Princess Di's death 8-31-1997 the devil made them do it. The CIA and MI-6 trading murders
12/15/01
7:53:08 AM
204.255.238.229
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Are you still here?
12/14/01
7:33:41 PM
66.124.37.199
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 95)
is this true???
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
12/6/01
4:20:47 PM
24.3.120.94
Mozilla/4.77 [en] (Win98; U)
12/5/01
1:14:59 PM
204.255.239.89
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Corp continues to stonewall national flood and cancer elimination program preferring steered contracts to flood and cancer victims lives. 62 million cancer and flood victims have lost their lives due to a contaminated water supply but do the polluters Ford and G.E. care no, not at all but they love laying off whistleblowers who would try to prevent water contamination at Fort Knox.
12/3/01
6:21:20 PM
63.36.205.132
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; MSNIA; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Ms. Fonda, Your apologies to the veterans of this country are too little, too late. You will remain an object of scorn and hatred long after you are gone.
12/1/01
8:26:01 PM
64.12.106.24
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
We have not forgotten ! Jane in her Glory: sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun mount. KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
William A. Fuhrmann
12/1/01
8:10:29 AM
204.255.239.36
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
62 million cancer patents and 4 soon to be 11 million Alzheimer patents and where is Barbarella when you need her you don't have to wear them skimpy out fits anymore. Mums the word the CIA doesn't want anyone to find out about their safe hous being the reason the manhattan buildings got blown up, its bad for moral at the CIA, 666
11/30/01
5:45:46 PM
204.255.236.179
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
I am surprised you haven't been intimidated into taking down your web site, it appears that 62 million health cate victims over the last 31 years is just not something aluminum can makers want to hear about, you haven;t really been born again have you? Don't drink tap water I don't want your boobs getting cancer in them. Aluminum in the brain that's what causes alzheimers
11/30/01
8:04:41 AM
204.255.239.105
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
My national Flood and Cancer prevention program is being stone walled by neo nazis at the Louisville and Tulsa districts of the Corp and one of the cancer victims may have not taken the news very well that Car and Chemical companies were practicing genocide on my family by poisoning their water supply, where's you Barbarella out fit when you need it?
11/29/01
6:05:25 PM
142.177.90.114
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Jane, I applaud you for what you did in Hanoi. Your fitness tapes are the best!! You have totally changed my life and others for the good, people who see you for being a 'traitor' are totally wrong, most of them are just people whom wish to beleive they actually did some thing in 'nam. You rock! Will
11/28/01
11:39:48 AM
207.115.179.195
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)
Please make sure that this reaches Ms. Fonda.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6-years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group,too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb.. (My normal weight is 170 lb..) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. We will never forget.
If Ms. Fonda has the guts to respond...my email address is lonzabug@hotmail.com. I am a United States Army vetran and I would like some answers from her.
11/13/01
11:03:43 AM
65.24.40.97
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
You traitor bitch. You should not have the right to breath the air in America. You are your father's shame.
11/13/01
11:02:31 AM
65.24.40.97
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
You traitor bitch. You should not have the right to breath the air in America. You are your father's shame.
11/10/01
11:43:25 AM
209.240.222.131
Mozilla/4.0 WebTV/2.6 (compatible; MSIE 4.0)
11/9/01
10:51:23 PM
209.205.161.49
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
>Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the >kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the >burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to >bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." >Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never >known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific >men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. > >The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry >Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival >School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking >cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to >describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane >treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged >away. > >During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's >feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered >from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the >Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. >Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the >"Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife >lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, >fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. > >They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that >they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN >on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a >cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little >encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are >you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" >Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. > > >She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once >the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned >to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men >died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four >but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that >day. > >I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured >by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for >over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage >in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese >captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a >leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near >the Cambodian border. > >At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 >lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." > >When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political >officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I >would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different >from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane >Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a >rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel >placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. > >I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I >was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She >did not answer me. > >This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years >of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never >include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many >patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but >Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. > >Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It >will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will >never forget.
11/8/01
3:31:38 PM
136.165.1.172
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0; University of Louisville)
I can not believe that you are being honored as one of the 100 Greatest Women you are a traitor to our nation and I will always believe so until you make a public apology to those you hurt by your visit to Hanoi. HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember
this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers,
mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the
Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless
others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the
idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed
during
Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's
name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former
Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in
Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton."
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and
dressed
in
clean
PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace
Activist"
the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp
Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78,
the
AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently
ended
his
flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application
of a
wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO
(F-4Es). He
spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he
was
"missing
in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His
group,
too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace
delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the
world
that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of
paper,
with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded
before
Ms.
Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's
hand
and
asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you
bombed
babies?"
and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your
benevolent
captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their
sliver
of
paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the
line
and
once
the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the
POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the
little pile
of
papers.
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was
almost
number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know
about,
her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam,
and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South
Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27
months in
solitary
confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a
"black
box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned
and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in
Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle
near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal
weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp
communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with
Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the
real
treatment we POWs received, different from the treatment
purported
by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane
and
lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor
on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of
steel
placed
on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms
dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of
hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be
willing to
debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as
part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100
years
of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered
with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but
Hanoi
Jane's
participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you
possibly can.
It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to
know
that we will never forget.
11/8/01
1:47:54 PM
24.25.82.45
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; AIRF)
I think your views on this attack on America are coming from never being a victim yourself! You need to finally grow up. These are evil people and they need to be dealt with in an evil manner!
11/7/01
10:25:01 AM
12.148.68.57
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)
Jane in her Glory sitting on an anti-aircraft gun mount. Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam! The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was capturedby the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
11/3/01
1:13:47 PM
205.188.193.156
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
Dear Commie Bitch,
As they say in the South, "Hell no, we ain't fergittin'!"
You've dishonored the memory of every freedom-loving American who died for this great country. You've slandered your Father's name, and continually endangered the freedom fighters of America by your cowardly, traitorous actions. Let the Taliban or the NVA elect you to something...see how you do wearing a brunous and veil in a desert cave with that other piece of swamp scum, bin Laden!
Commie go home!
11/3/01
1:03:25 PM
205.188.193.156
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
Hanoi Jane, Baby, don't forget your veil when you go visit your Taliban buddies. Do you think the terrorists will welcome your sorry ass with open arms like the NVA?
As for being named on the list of the "100 Women of the Century" and having the GALL to accept, all I can say is....WHAT??? YOU???? Not in ANY lifetime!
You treasonous bitch, you've slandered your father's name and true Americans everywhere.
Get the hell out of AMERICA!
11/3/01
9:11:16 AM
204.255.238.100
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
2 E Mails and Poof Dan Rather's gone, Its magic kind of like Disneyland.I wrote Jack Welch at G.E. a couple of letters trying to keep people from getting cancer an he wrote a book but I'll bet he left out the part about dumping chemicals in the Valley of the Drums
11/1/01
4:10:13 PM
134.129.85.110
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726
Netscape6/6.1
There is a new job opportunity for Jane Fonda and her FTA friends with the Taliban. The job description is simple: sit on a tank, broadcast advocacy of communism (or terrorism) on the radio, hide in the tunnels, and make a whole new cohort of enemies in the U.S. armed forces.
11/1/01
9:14:25 AM
165.121.208.166
Mozilla/4.73 [en] (Win98; U)
You didnt have to go through your high school years worrying whether or not you would have to go to Nam. Having friends you went to school with come home in a coffin. How could you accept being selected as one the 100 woman of the century. I dont see how you could blatanly deny your role at the Hanoi Hilton.
11/1/01
9:14:05 AM
204.255.239.143
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Dear Jane, while you are not fooling around, why don't you let your fingers do the walking it is not your good looks or pleasant personality that makes you a likely prospect to write All The Presidents Men Part 2, please read William W Turner's book. Study up on Agent Orange the rat poison.
11/1/01
9:11:17 AM
165.121.208.166
Mozilla/4.73 [en] (Win98; U)
If you dont like what we as Americans believe in why dont you go live in Afganistan for a while. Did your part in supportin the North Vietnamese treatment of our soldiers not teach you anything?
10/31/01
7:40:24 AM
207.239.97.193
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO(F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received, different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arm's dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
10/28/01
9:01:09 AM
24.93.228.142
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms.
Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6-years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb.. (My normal weight is 170 lb..) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
This is how I remember Jane Fonda !!!!!!!!!
10/27/01
9:04:34 AM
204.255.236.173
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ZDNetIE55)
Chemical companies that cause 34 million U.S. cancer and flood deaths. It's about the Valley of the Drums in Louisville Ky. and will be far superior to Danny D's 1995 film Rainmaker, in which Danny came up a little bit short, he should have kitened to his pretty little wife
10/25/01
9:42:29 AM
205.157.65.4
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
>>This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not >>remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that >>our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. >> >>Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of >>the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and >>still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda >>betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific >>men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. >> >>The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's >>name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former >>Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo >>Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking >>cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean >>PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American >>"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd >>received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged >>away. >> >>During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the >>camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. >>In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision >>(which permanently ended his flying days) from the >>Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. >>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO >>(F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first >>three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived >>on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the >>cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace >>delegation" visit. >> >>They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to >>the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a >>tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of >>his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, >>she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking >>little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you >>bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane > >>treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this >>HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of >>paper. >> >>She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of >>the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the >>shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer >>in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three >>men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was >>almost number four but he survived, which is the only >>reason we know about, her actions that day. >> >>I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, >>and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in >>South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent >>27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in >>Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My >>North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and >>murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in >>Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle >>near the Cambodian border. >> >>At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My >>normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war >>criminals." >> >>When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp >>communist political officer if I would be willing >>to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to >>tell her about the real treatment we POWs received >>different from the treatment purported by the North >>Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and >>lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky >>floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large >>amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a >>bamboo cane till my arms dipped. >> >>I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a >>couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she >>would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer >>me. >> >>This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as >>part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 >>years of great women" should never include a traitor >>whose hands are covered with the blood of so many >>patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral >>reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant >>treason, is one of them. >> >>Please take the time to forward to as many people as you >>possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer >>and she needs to know that we will never forget.
10/24/01
11:56:47 PM
198.81.17.31
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
I just read the speech you gave in Hanoi. I was there and will never forget what you did or what you said. I hope the old grim reapper has a special place for you in hell.
10/24/01
2:54:04 PM
205.188.195.38
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Sister Jane, I see the liars and hate mongers are still at it. The one thing I want you to know is that love will still be with you, after all the hate has disappeared. Love abides. It always will. God loves you, I love you. Messnj
10/23/01
8:03:35 AM
65.10.127.67
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
Subject: HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. Still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F- 4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman,she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this had to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we get..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
PS I surely remember Jane.
10/20/01
11:52:23 AM
66.74.28.53
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)
HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century.." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6-years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers.. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
10/20/01
10:41:08 AM
66.56.207.142
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
You were a communist in 1969 and a traitor in 1972. Anything you say now is a lie, only to further your career.
10/19/01
11:40:07 PM
63.231.90.186
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Compaq)
You communist bitch!
10/17/01
9:54:02 AM
216.82.9.124
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton". Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet which sent that officer berserk. In '78 the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65 Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper with his SSN on it in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four, but he survived which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968 and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals".
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POW's received, different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese and parroted by Jane Fonda as "humane and lenient". Because of this I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women". Lest we forget, "100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
10/15/01
5:26:54 PM
12.64.235.59
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 4.0)
15Oct01 Just read your "quote" in Limbaugh's Letter. I propose that we send Jane Fonda to the Taliban to try to convert them to her religion or lifestyle. I would be one of the first to endorse such an arrangement, even donate to it's accomplishment. Joe Walther in Austin
10/15/01
5:26:49 PM
12.64.235.59
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 4.0)
15Oct01 Just read your "quote" in Limbaugh's Letter. I propose that we send Jane Fonda to the Taliban to try to convert them to her religion or lifestyle. I would be one of the first to endorse such an arrangement, even donate to it's accomplishment. Joe Walther in Austin
10/15/01
1:48:17 PM
63.75.132.250
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT YOU WERE HONORED AS ONE THE OF THE 100 WOMEN OF THE CENTURY? THERE ARE THOSE OF US WHO CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED. DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER A PILOT BY THE NAME OF JERRY DISCOLL OR A COL. LARRY CARRIGAN? I AM NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE CAN'T CHANGE BUT I AM WONDERING AT YOUR VALUES IN EXCEPTING AN AWARD SUCH AS THIS. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING WHAT YOU DID AND STILL STAND THERE AND EXCEPT THAT AWARD. I KNOW NOW YOU DONATE MONEY, TIME AND YOUR NAME TO THE BETTERMENT OF OUR WORLD BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ERASES WHAT YOU DID THE THE POW'S AND OUR COUNTRY? NOT EVERYONE HAS FORGOTTEN. I DO NOT EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS AS YOU NEVER HAVE BEFORE. SO ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS SHAME ON YOU FOR NEVER ATONING WITH THE POW'S YOU HURT WITH YOUR ACTIONS. MG
10/10/01
4:04:25 PM
209.154.157.1
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 95)
I'm just sorry I was too young to go to Vietnam. For if I was there, I would take on a personal mission to execute you and piss on your dead corpse. As far as I'm concerned, you are Osama Bin Laden's wife and should meet a horrible death like he will.
10/8/01
9:01:04 PM
152.163.207.79
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 7.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Mrs. Fonda, I heard that you have recieved an award from the Ladies Home Jornal for the 100 Women of the century. Well I think that was in bad taste on their part. We in the military will never forget what You did to our men, husbands and sons in Vietnam. One day you will certainly have to make peach with the Good Lord for all that. But until that time. You are no role model for any woman in this great nation.
10/6/01
6:49:21 PM
205.188.199.51
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; CS 2000 6.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Remember Hanoi, Shame on you! You don"t deserve to call yourself an american, much less be honored for anything.
10/5/01
2:03:55 PM
206.37.206.68
Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; U)
10/4/01
3:54:49 PM
208.63.118.108
Mozilla/4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I)
Ms. Fonda, I am a Vietnam Vet and despise your actions in support of the Peoples Republic of Vietnam. I had hoped that with age would come wisdom, this apparently hasn't happened in you apparent support of the Usama bin Laden as a criminal vs the position of our Government in that he is a terrorist that has declared war on our country. I will disagree to the death your opinion, but I will fight to the death your right to that opinion. George Nicholas, Vietnam 1965 - 1967 / 1969 - 1971
10/3/01
3:12:13 AM
205.188.199.58
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Sister Jane, I remember sitting on guard at night in Vietnam, listening to the chatter on our army short-wave radios. There was a lot of hate being spoken over the airwaves, mostly against blacks; it was really awful. It was like listening to Nazis preaching, if you can imagine that. But I guess hate will always be with us. There is a story Jesus told about weeds growing in a wheat field, dealing with kind of the same thing. He said, "Don't pull up the weeds, because you will probably damage the wheat too, so just leave things the way they are, and in the harvest, things will be sorted out." Or words to that effect. It is kind of shocking to me, all the hate going on, but a Christian, someone who follows Christ, I guess can learn to live with it. We can learn to love even our enemies, even those who hate us so much. With all my love to you, A Vietnam vet. Messnj
10/1/01
1:28:21 PM
216.217.138.2
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget
9/30/01
1:03:12 AM
205.188.192.42
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Sister Jane, We are having a beautiful fall this year, aren't we? The temperature now is just perfect for going outside and walking. The environment can be so awesome at times. But even the sparrows in the trees and the lilies of the field are nothing compared to humans. With all our flaws (and we have many, don't we?) with all our flaws we are still those whom God loves above all else. The beauty of sunsets, the flight of birds in the sky, the turning of the leaves in the fall, these pass on by; but we live on. We are those that God so loves, he opens his kingdom for. I guess it's not easy being you, but I think you have a good heart. I know you have a good head, so walk at ease. God bless you. Keep up the good work. Messnj
9/29/01
10:50:05 AM
12.73.39.195
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt; AT&T WNS5.2; AT&T
CSM6.0)
How about some more traitor comments today as they are just what our country needs? How have you avoided being tried as a traitor to the United States?
9/28/01
12:55:49 PM
216.97.209.127
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Jane why do you continue to spit upon the U.S.A.? You deserve to be shot for treason for crimes against humanity in the 60's and now you continue to take the same path in 2000! please move to canada or vietnam if you hate it here so much!
9/28/01
2:21:28 AM
64.12.102.179
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Sister Jane, Sitting with my windows open in the nice weather of this fall night, I hear an owl hoot-hooting in the shelter-belt outside my home. I don't know why owls hoot at night; maybe they are scaring mice from their cover, or maybe they are locating mates, but to me the sound is both beautiful and somewhat rare, a treasure to listen to. Jane, what you say, what we all say is mostly worth listening to. Listen to your heart and your mind, and keep on talking. At least I want to hear your thoughts. Thank you for your time. Messnj PS. God looks out for you, He loves you. And I like you, too.
9/27/01
5:47:31 PM
216.47.195.59
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Just when in the hell are you going to keep your dam mouth shut you dumb bitch
9/27/01
3:16:20 AM
152.163.205.82
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Beloved Sister, I am with you. Always. Messnj PS God loves you too.
9/26/01
8:22:17 PM
209.86.151.170
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
You were a total bitch in 71, and you are a total bitch in 01. It is a shame your sorry ass wasn't on the 105 floof when we lost our people in New York. May you rot in hell!!
9/26/01
8:20:19 PM
207.199.143.80
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
I don't agree with your political views, but you still look good.
9/26/01
6:01:15 PM
64.12.103.153
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; MSOCD; AtHome020)
What the F** is wrong with you, Jane? How can you even remotely consider the WTC attacks criminal violations and not an act of war? Have you studied the definitions of both? DO you want to let this sort of thing go unchallenged and unpunished?
If you like other countries and their citizens so much more than ours, as with your Korean trips during that war, then why don't you just move?
I bet if you had to live in one of these countries for a few years, then you might actually learn to appriciate what we have here in the US and may even want to defend it.
9/26/01
2:04:16 PM
12.110.17.2
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)
You apologized for what you did during the Viet Nam War but you are doing it again. This must be your true color. You may want to read Michael Kelly's article in the Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26290-2001Sep26.html Karen Shields
9/26/01
6:43:00 AM
64.12.107.52
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Sister Jane, "Sitting in the mountains by Hue, waiting for my Deros day". Once walking in the forests we came across a hillside covered with odd looking trees: they looked like they belonged on a mountainside in Colorado. They just didn't look like the regular trees we were walking under in the boonies of Vietnam. And at the very top of the hill was this old, old tree; very large and gnarled. It was the same type tree as these others; undoubtably the mother of all the trees on the hillside. I was able to stop and rest under this big tree, and look around. It was a magnificant sight. Vietnam was a beautiful country, if you could get away from the shooting. It was like the Blue ridge mountains of Tennessee, except in a warmer climate; perhaps if the Blue ridge mountains would be south of Florida, that's how it was. Anyway, I rested under this ancient tree, and said a prayer; that's how the place affected me. I needed prayer there, and the forest afforded me an opportunity. It seemed serene there, a good place for meditation. For a while I had some peace, but we moved on, and I never saw the place again. Peace, Jane, with my love. Messnj
9/26/01
5:33:18 AM
205.188.192.49
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Sister Jane, Christ died at the hands of his own people. He must have felt rejected and alone. But in the end he was there for us. Peace be with you. Messnj
9/25/01
4:26:46 PM
199.174.144.244
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who don't remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation "visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and hande d him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
9/25/01
4:41:07 AM
64.12.105.159
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Sister Jane, If we follow the code of an eye for an eye, we will all end up blind. I am not the most moral person, but I know this; that I am not the one to judge other's actions. There is too big a beam in my own eye, for me to see slivers in other's eyes.
9/24/01
10:47:40 PM
4.35.216.129
Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)
I quite agree with your warning. Below is what I sent to many newspapers in the MUslim and Arab world after prayer and reflection among several of us:
A Plea to Arabs and Muslims from an American Christian
I am an American Christian. Not many agree with me and my friends about
America's new war, but even now there are a few of us - and if the Arab and Muslim world handles this wisely, there could be many more.
Six to nine months ago my friend's wife recounted a dream she had dreamed back in 1999. She was standing on a high mountain looking east over the whole United States before her. As she watched, two whirlwinds
formed close together. Presently a missile, labeled USA, emerged from each one, and she knew they carried nuclear warheads. We prayed that God would show us if this dream was from Him, and if so, what did it mean?
I think we now have our answer! The war the USA is now undertaking will
be more cruel than any other it has waged before, and not against a nation of 35 million, but against a region of 700 million or more which can return blows in the American heartland as the Vietnamese were unable
to do. It will progress to unrestrained savagery abroad and a brutal popular tyranny at home, in which those of us who hold to truth and refuse to join in American pride and self-righteousness will be persecuted without mercy, along with the 7 million or more Muslims and Christian Arabs here. It is written in Revelation 13:4 concerning the beast that the whole world will worship the beast and say, "Who is like the beast, and who can wage war with him?" George W. Bush, in promising
that when he is done no one will dare to wage war against the United States, commits himself to bringing this prophecy to fulfillment. And yet - through prayer, repentance, and intelligent action, might it yet be averted in our day?
Bush's ultimatum to Afghanistan is just like the one Austria issued against Serbia to start World War 1. Like that one, this ultimatum is designed not to be accepted but to give the USA an excuse to crush Afghanistan and radical Islam, just as Austria designed its ultimatum as
an excuse to crush Serbia and the bomb-throwers who took refuge there. Austria didn't realize where that would end, and neither does the USA. As Jeremiah wrote, "They are mad (boastful and arrogant) over fearsome idols" - the missiles, bombs, and other means of death which they have fashioned, and in which they trust.
Our President has blasphemously promised to "rid the world of evildoers," which only God can do in His good time. And if Mr. Bush could do this, would he include the evildoers who have crafted an embargo to target children, human beings made in God's image, whom this embargo is killing like gnats?
As some Muslims fail to realize, the USA is in no way a Christian country - and few American Christians fully dare to face this fact. It is an aggressively idolatrous pagan empire that worships itself, the descendant and reincarnation of Nineveh and Tyre, of Babylon and pagan Rome, which includes Jesus as a lesser divinity in its pantheon, but which in no way submits to His word. As Solomon said, "The name of the Lord is a strong tower and the righteous runs into it and is safe," but in contrast, "The rich man's wealth is his strong city, and a high wall in his own imagination." Where does the USA run for refuge - to the God
of truth, or to its limitless wealth in money, in instruments of death, and in seductiveness? What does the confidence of the USA have in common with the word of Jesus of Nazareth? What fellowship do the people of God have with idols, American or otherwise?
If victory is to military might, where are the South African apartheid regime and the Soviet Union? Arabs, both Muslim and Christian, and all other Muslims have a common interest with American Christians - that we might turn back the bloody hands of the corrupt and violent gods of the American Empire.
Just as Americans would do better by understanding Muslims, the targets of American wrath must understand American culture in order to turn back
their adversary.
Christians in the USA do know the slaughter in its abortion clinics, and
it does bother them a little. Persistently reminding them of this wanton
bloodshed could lead them to truly realize that the USA is indeed one nation under Molech, the god who drinks the blood of children, and not under the true God, as it boasts in its insolence. Early and often, Americans need to be reminded that the tally on 11 September was less than the sum of their own children fed by their own hands to their gods of convenience and financial gain on that very day and the day before. The USA devours Iraqi children because it first devours its own. Should
Christians be unequally yoked with a nation such as this?
The authors of the present American war madness know that they are vulnerable at this point - see how they flew at the throats of Falwell and Robertson for bringing it up. Falwell and Robertson were mistaken in that they too walked in American self-righteousness as they identified the sins of other people as the problem, rather than our own sins as Christians. Do we not share in worshipping America, in adoring
American power and wealth, and in despising the powerless? And yet they
revealed this fissure in American unity, which the wise may use to oppose this madness, as happened in the case of Vietnam.
Do not target the whole of the USA. Target its gods, and drive a wedge between them and those who profess to follow Jesus of Nazareth. In so doing, you will do good not only to us but to yourselves.
Peter Attwood 15047 Coralwood Drive Chino Hills, CA 91709 attwoods@earthlink.net
9/23/01
4:18:04 AM
152.163.205.76
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Goodness, goodness, goodness. Jane, you know what a Christian is? How to tell if someone is a Christian, what the defining attribute is? It is love. You will know Christ's followers by the love they show each other. And you know what else, to be a Christian means even more; you love your enemies. Amazing, isn't that? Christ died for those who put him to death. Not an easy thing to do. But there you have it. With my love.
9/22/01
4:51:00 PM
24.6.56.139
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
Dear Jane Seymour Fonda, a.k.a. Hanoi Jane,
How wonderful to know you have once again graced Americans with your particular brand of patriotism. Congratulations also for your upcoming 64th birthday, Dec. 21st, 2001. I know of no other place on this planet where you could have been permitted to be an enemy of a nation since 1971 and not be placed in jail or executed for treason. It is for your freedom Americans are willing to sacrifice their lives, Ms Fonda. As you have not mellowed at all since your shows of patriotism in Hanoi, I don't expect you to understand that.
Sharing your infinite wisdom with us Thursday, Sept. 20, 2001, on Atlanta Radio Station WMXV-FM, you advised that we "try to understand the underlying causes" of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. I regret to inform you that we do understand those underlying causes. Apparently it is you who does not understand that more than 6,000 American citizens were killed at the hands of terrorist. But it is not those whom you talk about is it? You do not know or care how many children were killed, or how many innocent pregnant women were killed, how many families are fatherless now. Instead, you want us instead to consider the terrorist:
"I think it has to be dealt with as a crime," you are quoted. "And when there's a crime, you don't bomb a city or a country --- you use very, very clever intelligence, undercover-type operations to get the criminals and punish them, and then you try to understand the underlying causes of the crime."
A hold up at your local convince store is a crime, Ms Fonda. What happened on Sept. 11th in America is an attempt toward genocide. You seem to make no distinction. Are you fey?
Instead, you wish for us to understand the terrorists' underlying causes. Do you want to feel their pain, Afgan Jane?
Many Americans, like the firemen and police of New York City, would LOVE for you to feel the terrorist' pain --- Why don't you make one of your little political trips to Afghanistan, Ms Fonda, and find Osama bin Laden and comfort him: feel is pain: really FEEL it when we get to him. Then maybe we will use very, very, clever intelligence to make sure that you feel his pain too.
Oh, by the way. Hate the exercise tapes.
T. D. Ponder 716 40th Place Fairfield, Al 35061-2306 205 785-1615 tdponder@juno.com
9/22/01
7:51:41 AM
205.188.192.46
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; CS 2000; Windows 98; DigExt)
Jane, You are guilty of second degree murder at the very least! It doesn't matter that you gave Harvard 12 mil. +, or anything else of the like. You committed 1st degree murder (you knew that what you did would result in the 'beating death' of at least 1 of our soldiers- men that put their lives on the line for what's right and to keep this country free- AND YOU SET THEM UP TO BE MURDERED?!!!) and "treason" in the worst way (it was direct, and in the face of our very men that sacrifice their lives for this land- "God's land.") How can you even look yourself in the mirror? I guess anyone that is low and evil as you, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc., can look in the mirror just fine because you get a 'high' out of being evil and the torture of others, you have proven this completely. I can't figure at all why the U.S. Gov. didn't arrest and convict you of "1st degree murder and treason" and make you pay for both crimes COMPLETELY! (again- you knew that what you were doing was going to bring on the beating death of at least 1 of the men- but a lot more died in this manor because of you, didn't they?). This is one of those times that I wish that God never said "Vengeance is His," otherwise I know that you would already be dead and in "hell" yourself. I can only find confort in the fact that you are "only living on borrowed time." You must have sold your soul to keep from being taken out already, you must be living as part of a deal with satan himself so that you wouldn't die earlier, therefore paying for what you've done until the very latest point. But that only guarentees you a place in hell as soon as you die. "I will celebrate that day!" And don't insult any of us with this "Born again Christianity." You committed one of the "unforgiveable sins," so hell hasn't left, it's not going to dissapear before you die, and neither will satan. "It will" be sitting there waiting for you when it is your turn- and so will satan and all of his demons! So Jane, I guess you should live as lively as you can before you go, because guarenteed when your number comes up, right that second you will for sure feel satan grab you by the back of your neck, and then that will be it! You will forever be ravished by legions of demons from then on! How funny do you think you will be then?!
9/22/01
4:49:26 AM
205.188.199.159
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Such hate, such hate. I have been to the Vietnam war memorial in Washington,DC. I have read the names on that wall. I knew some of those soldiers when we in the boonies, going through the war, dying. These were some of my personal friends. Now they are names on a black wall. If you want to hate so much, hate the people who sent us there. That war was a fraud, that war was immoral, and that war was totally useless. Everyone who died there, died for nothing. They didn't die protecting our nation, they didn't die protecting freedom, they didn't die for the people over here. Their deaths were a terrible waste. And you are hating Jane Fonda? Shit.
9/21/01
6:54:43 PM
205.188.201.212
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; AOL 5.0; Windows 95)
>From: ImportantInfo >Subject: HONORING A TRAITOR ? >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:07:25 > > > > > > > > > > > >This is for all the kids born in the 70's who don't remember this, >and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and >older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored >as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have >forgotten and still countless others have never known specific men >who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is >from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. >In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW >in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit >of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to >describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and >humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, >and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward >upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In >'78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which >permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s >frenzied application of wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry >Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the >"Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His >wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the >cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation >"visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to >the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece >of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded >before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each >man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like "Aren't you >sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane >treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be >an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them >all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the >camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she >turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of >papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan >was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we >know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic >development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North >Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over >5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a >cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North >Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female >missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, >whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, >I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) >We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, >I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be >willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to >tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from >the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane >Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days >on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large >amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane >till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda >for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would >be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not >exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of >Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should >never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of >so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral >reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is >one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as >you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she >needs to know that we will never forget. > >
9/21/01
6:36:23 AM
152.163.194.208
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Jane, Good Golly, such hate being pushed at you. I remember the hate attacks against the nuns marching for civil liberties in the South during the freedom marches, and saw then that this was what Christ was talking about when he said, "Your reward will be great in heaven when you are reviled and persecuted for being my followers" or something along those lines. Jane, as far as I am concerned, you are one of the greatest members of our generation. You saw the lies, and put your life on the line for us. I feel you saw we were wrong to be in Vietnam, and made the mistake to think the North was in the right. We all grow and make mistakes. But you, more than most, did understand a truth then, that we were in the wrong. As far as I'm concerned, you had more balls than the whole of the U.S. army, and you were smarter too. Jane, I was drafted back then and served with the 2/501st, 101st Airborne. I was part of the attack on hill 937, which became known as "Hamburger Hill". Back then we were all cursing the people who had put us there, perhaps as bad as these people are cursing you now. But back then, in reality, we saw the lies, and we knew this war for what it was. Bless you for trying to say what you thought. You are the greatest hero from that war. You will be in my heart forever.
9/18/01
12:34:08 PM
206.211.169.137
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 4.0)
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who don't remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation "visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
IS THIS TRUE?...
9/18/01
10:53:19 AM
208.180.204.112
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98)
As a born-again Christian I've been taught that we are to forgive & forget, but what you did during the Vietnam conflict is hard to do. Especially when so many did not return, because of your encouragement to the enemy. If you are a genuine born-again Christian you will do what the Bible says when you've stolen from another, you are to return it. You stole the lives of many and the health of many more, now you should return both by taking care with your millions those who came back and the families of those who didn't. When, and only when, that happens will I truly believe that you are a Christian. And I will circulate this letter around the US; because who is to say that you are not harboring the terrorists of osama bin laden, You did it once before...
9/7/01
3:29:36 PM
208.25.240.200
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98; Hotbar 2.0)
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that don't remember this, and didn't have to
bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In ''78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the"Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still a live. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col.Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment supported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
9/2/01
2:34:37 PM
216.97.218.66
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
NEVER FORGET!!
Times change...Memories remain!
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4 pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a "River Rat". In 1978, the former commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon the camp commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she Turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development> advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with> a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget... "100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. Charles (Skip) Klingman Asst. Professor of Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK 73096 (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795
8/31/01
7:07:24 PM
213.122.66.114
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)
8/31/01
6:41:28 PM
64.30.6.66
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)
Jane It is my opinion that you should someday feel the pain and suffering that our P.O.W's felt after you betrayed them and our country. How do you sleep at night knowing what you did to men of our country. They follwed the orders, fought, got captured, suffered, received harsh punishment for trying to tell their family that they are alive and sometimes died. They are the ones who should truely be honored. NOT YOU. You betrayed them in their hour of need. You betrayed your country. You are not an American and do not deserve the right to be called and American. Go back to North Vietnam, you seemed to like it there....communist!
8/31/01
8:58:06 AM
24.4.254.160
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; MSNIA; Windows 98; MSOCD; AtHome020)
8/29/01
10:32:33 AM
204.210.43.58
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.5; Mac_PowerPC)
H'mmm...looks like to me that its just a matter of time before this Cyber Wild Fire of your role in bringing harm and death to Vietnam POW's reaches across all of the Web. What do you have to say for yourself Jane?
I would think in this case silence is Not golden.
8/22/01
2:09:25 PM
209.220.132.13
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT 4.0) Opera 5.12 [en]
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison - the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, He fell forward uponthe camp commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In 1978, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton" - the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD tobe an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
Charles (Skip) Klingman Asst. Professor of Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK 73096 (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795
If having Jane Fonda named one as of the woman of the century bothers you as much as it does me, then mail this to everyone on your list.
8/18/01
1:44:30 AM
198.81.16.189
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98)
Run for President in '04 ! ! ! ! ! Ppppuuuhhhllleleeeaaaassseee ! ! ! !
-From a fan who has loved you since the days of Barbarella ! !
8/16/01
10:26:50 AM
161.22.44.91
Mozilla/4.72 [en] (Win98; U)
Ms. Fonda:
I received thin on e-mail. If you are truly a "born again" Christian, I suggest you try to make some amends to the families of these men:
NEVER FORGET!! Times change...Memories remain! Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon the camp commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she Turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget... "100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. Charles (Skip) Klingman Asst. Professor of Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK 73096 (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795
If having Jane Fonda named one of the woman of the century bothers you as much as it does me, then mail this to everyone on your list
8/15/01
9:50:12 AM
24.29.193.77
Mozilla/4.76 [en] (Win95; U)
HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
Cathy McClain, Information Services Dept., 176 N Santa Fe, Salina, Ks.
8/14/01
11:34:23 PM
209.206.251.4
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; TUCOWS)
Hi Jane, I'm 47. What can I say, you are part of my history. I love everything you have done. I only have a son, but if I had a daughter, I would make sure she knew of you in the context of American history, because I think I would want her to be like you, ... in many ways.
8/10/01
11:51:21 AM
208.224.126.42
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; Compaq)
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KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, thatour fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent! beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still srvived. Each man secreted tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded! before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic developm! ent advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the ! blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
[Not too sure where this originated at but thought that it might be interesting to get a response from the Lady herself...]
Bernard R. Topping topp@t-one.net
8/8/01
11:28:08 PM
205.188.197.27
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Through recent research for a paper, I have read several books and articles and visited several websites - you are truly one of America's greatest female leaders! I am in awe of your talent, determination and ability to renew life through love and opportunity. dlocicero@bassmuseum.org
8/5/01
2:54:59 PM
63.10.101.195
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0b; Windows 98)
Dear Jane....
welp, it seems all the posters are wishing the "devil" on ya honeychild!
I be Donald DeWayne Woods, the Smoky Mountain Seventh Son of a Seventh Son at http://www.esper.com/dwoods/ and I be Lucifer's Moonchild don'tcha know. Now my email is at< dwoods59@VolExpress.com, don't use dat one on my web page.
Knowing's you were complaining about babysitting dat mean old Ted, and he accused Christianity of being a loser religion, cus he got mad when you joined, you just contact this old 'faith healer' and go to my web page dedicated to the Legend and Mythology, me thinks, you will recall posting to me several years ago in the now defunct Gibson Greeting Cards message board don'tcha know.
Bout dat old Malthusilian Teddy boy??? eh? I think I can help ya both out here in settleing that little dispute!
The Divine and Chosen One speakth dat golden wisdom from the scenic vista's high in dem smoky mountain's of east tennessee!
8/1/01
6:20:38 PM
208.63.236.201
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
I hope the devil will take you soon... You bitch
7/29/01
12:39:10 PM
4.60.60.237
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; AT&T CSM6.0)
> KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA > > HONORING A TRAITOR > > This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not > remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that > our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had > to bear. > > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of > the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and > still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda > betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific > men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. > > The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's > name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former > Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo > Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking > cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean > PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American > "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd > received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged > away. > > During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the > camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. > In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision > (which permanently ended his flying days) from the > Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. > From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO > (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first > three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived > on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the > cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace > delegation" visit. > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to > the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a > tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of > his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, > she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking > little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you > bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane > treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this > HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of > paper. > > She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of > the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the > shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer > in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three > men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was > almost number four but he survived, which is the only > reason we know about, her actions that day. > > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, > and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in > South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent > 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in > Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My > North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and > murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in > Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle > near the Cambodian border. > > At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My > normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war > criminals." > > When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp > communist political officer if I would be willing > to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to > tell her about the real treatment we POWs received > different from the treatment purported by the North > Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and > lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky > floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large > amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a > bamboo cane till my arms dipped. > > I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a > couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she > would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer > me. > > This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as > part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 > years of great women" should never include a traitor > whose hands are covered with the blood of so many > patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral > reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant > treason, is one of them. > > Please take the time to forward to as many people as you > possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer > and she needs to know that we will never forget. >
7/27/01
12:15:13 PM
206.146.129.38
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT)
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."
Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison- the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?"! and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of papers.
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
Charles (Skip) Klingman Asst. Professor of Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK 73096
7/26/01
6:25:06 PM
207.104.47.251
Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
Hi Jane,
If you actually read these postings I feel sorry for you. Having read other postings on this message board makes me sick. Either they come down hard on you for being a traitor or "Christians" want to hug you, or the evil-minded who love you as Barbarella (a sex object only meant for fornication) want to post their typical debased thoughts. But, supposing you read my post....
Jane, I hope you are a Christian. I hope that Jesus Christ has indeed come into your life. I hope he has shown you the end of sinners, who must be judged and found guilty. I hope he has shown you the way to eternal life. I hope you are working out the contradictions. I hope, for your sake and for others', that he is going to complete that work in you so you can trust in him and have as a result confidence to stand before him on Judgment Day, not havning a righteousness based on your own ways, but the righteousness that comes through faith in Jesus Christ. I will continue to pray for you.
7/24/01
2:40:34 AM
63.15.252.110
Mozilla/4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U)
I guess some people are fascinated by anyone. As the son of a Vietnam Vet, I think the idea of Hanoi Jane being idolized and voted on of the 100 most important people a slap in the face. Politics aside I think she's trash, and although there are hundreds of thousands of people in the US who don't even know where Vietnam is, or that there was ever a war there, there are still those who know what kind of treacherous letch she really is.
7/23/01
10:04:11 AM
24.220.1.89
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
>>> > >>> > > Subject: Never forgotten >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Atrocities still occur. >>> > > > NEVER FORGET!! >>> > > > Times change...Memories remain! >>> > > > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women >>> > > > of the Century." Unfortunately many have forgotten >>> > > > and still countless others have never known how >>> > > > Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country >>> > > > but specific men who served and sacrificed during >>> > > > Vietnam. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In >>> > > > 1978, the former commandant of the USAF Survival >>> > > > School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." >>> > > > Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, >>> > > > fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to >>> > > > describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" >>> > > > the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. >>> > > > He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon >>> > > > the camp commandant's feet, which sent that officer >>> > > > berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from >>> > > > double vision (which permanently ended his flying >>> > > > days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application >>> > > > of a wooden baton. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO >>> > > > (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the >>> > > > first three of which he was "missing in action". >>> > > > His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His >>> > > > group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in >>> > > > preparation for a peace delegation" visit. They, >>> > > > however, had time and devised a plan to get >>> > > > word to the world that they still survived. >>> > > > Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, >>> > > > with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. >>> > > > When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she >>> > > > walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking >>> > > > little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry >>> > > > you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the >>> > > > humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" >>> > > > Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her >>> > > > their sliver of paper. She took them all without >>> > > > missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the >>> > > > camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of >>> > > > the POWs, she Turned to the officer in charge ... and >>> > > > handed him the little pile of papers. >>> > > > Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. >>> > > > Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which >>> > > > is the only reason we know about her actions that day. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > I was a civilian economic development advisor in >>> > > > Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese >>> > > > communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over >>> > > > 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, >>> > > > one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a >>> > > > black box" in Hanoi. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and >>> > > > murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium >>> > > > in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the >>> > > > jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was >>> > > > weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is >>> > > > 170 lbs.) >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda >>> > > > was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political >>> > > > officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. >>> > > > I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real >>> > > > treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different >>> > > > from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, >>> > > > and parroted by Jane Fonda, as humane and lenient." >>> > > > Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor >>> > > > on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount >>> > > > of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo >>> > > > cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to >>> > > > meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was >>> > > > released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate >>> > > > me on TV. She did not answer me >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > This does not exemplify someone who should be honored >>> > > > as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget... >>> > > > "100 years of great women" should never include a >>> > > > traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of >>> > > > so many patriots. There are few things I have strong >>> > > > visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation >>> > > > in blatant treason, is one of them. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Please take the time to forward to as many people as >>> > > > you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her >>> > > > computer and she needs to know that we will never >>> > > > forget. Charles (Skip) Klingman Asst. Professor of >>> > > > Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University >>> > > > Weatherford, OK 73096 (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795 >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > If having Jane Fonda named one of the woman of the >>> > > > century bothers you as much as it does me, then mail >>> > > > this to everyone on your list. >>> > > >>> >> >
7/21/01
4:15:45 AM
66.27.136.210
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0; NetCaptor 6.5.0B7)
Jane Fonda is a babe, you stupid dorks! Stop messing with her and go watch her workout tapes to jerk off! You know you want to fuck her sexy ass. Gay ass motherfuckers...
7/20/01
4:18:25 PM
198.206.187.100
Mozilla/4.7 [en] (WinNT; U)
Dear Jane,
please read this and then go to hell.
This is written in 1st person but I don't know who the "I" is. It's well worth sharing with those who are too young to remember and will get the sanitized "government" version of our history in a public school.
HONORING A TRAITOR
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and
didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never
known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a
visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col.
still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be
an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I Spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia,
and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
7/16/01
9:02:06 AM
140.186.41.4
Mozilla/4.72 [en]C-TTLC472CCK (Win98; I)
Jane's a traitor in the Veterans eyes not a hero! Time doesn't change they way the Vets feel! Have her crawl back in her hole.....
7/4/01
11:10:38 PM
158.252.93.105
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 95)
Click here: "Hanoi Jane" http://www.talltexian.com/TALLTEXIANsSagebrushAristocrat/id34.htm
You should be ashamed of yourself.
7/4/01
12:33:38 PM
64.24.59.159
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
From a recent email I received:
"Subject: Honoring a Traitor
This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 -years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about, her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget."
7/2/01
10:52:30 AM
208.209.33.4
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
Happy July 4 Hanoi Jane...traitor.
6/26/01
11:22:13 AM
164.58.10.124
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0)
I have always admired you for your convictions as well as your multifaceted talents. As a professional Christian woman, I look to you as a courageous leader willing to step forth with your ideas when they may not always be accepted. One thing I have noticed is that my mother, a woman in her 70's has felt the same convictions and we keep you in our prayers. lilblonde_us@yahoo.com
6/14/01
11:58:24 PM
62.243.49.115
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
PS : I will not put my e-mail address in public , but if you feel the need to reply , then contact TeleDanmark and let them request me . Tell the name and my date for getting an ADSL-connection : 31 january 2001 in Virum . Love Thomas DK
6/14/01
11:34:25 PM
62.243.49.115
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
Well , so you've bin to cold Copenhagen and told the nice nurses about the monstrous men , yeah ? Well , tell me why infant-boys get mutilated 7 days old in the Name of Jehova or Allah (we are talking about nearly all jews & muslims and 80% of the american males ..!) and why the christians worship a crucified male ? Well , I won't and I don't believe in any religion made by the clever ancient mothers and you can go on blindly on your crusade which is about as ridiculous as your movies and by the way did your father also play roles like in : "Once upon a time in the west" . He knew - as opposed to his cute attentionhungry stillchildish daughter - that there are many aspects to life and those who guide and rule our concept of the world sits by the cradle . And if the motherGod is too overfingering he might become a man like Sergio Leones bad boy Frank ... So please don't lie to the world about women being burdened by children when highpriestesses have cut the throat of the chosen young men after giving what was needed for pregnancy in the good old honest pagan-virgin and fertility-worshipping days before Abraham was told to be circumcised by a God who said : 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called. 21:13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
What a cruel patriarch !?!?! Dear Jane , I believe in God , but I'm afraid that most of this earths people don't - they believe in a religion and in my eyes does any type of religion deny Gods influence . Preach not if you cannot see what God sees & comprehends for humanity in time & space . And even when you see beware of yourself becoming like God
Love Thomas DK
6/14/01
12:40:04 PM
216.29.50.70
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Mac_PowerPC)
Hanoi Jane- Happy Flag day you traitor-bitch. Which flag do traitor bitches like yourself fly on flag day? I think you & the rest of your commie/christen fucks should tongue each other in the ass while standing on glass and getting beaten by bamboo batons.
6/14/01
12:22:59 PM
216.29.50.70
Mozilla/4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC)
Jane - I'm a lot of things. I masterbate obsessively, I've spent lots of time gazing at my own anus with a handheld mirror and I think 16 year old girls are sexy. But at least I'm not a traitor bitch. haha. Think about that one next time you're doing your dumb ass workout tapes or wasting time in church, trying to act like you're not a vile, coke-sniffing commy.
5/25/01
1:19:28 AM
216.21.143.76
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
Dear Jane, I have healing hands. After I treat people they say: " I feel like I am more like myself again" and 'feel like I have been touched by an angel.' I meditate for guidance. Your name keeps coming up. May I treat you? P.S. Don't want anything from you i.e don't want to be the poster child for alternative therapies. or go on Oprah or write a cook book. I treat and I am good at it.
What do you think? I know you must be very wary by now but trust me on this one.
All the best in any case, Regards, Brenda Gerhard Angel at large. Have hands will travel.
5/21/01
6:05:26 PM
156.99.90.178
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Mac_PowerPC)
Jane-- I am writing to express my gratitude for sharing your clarity about issues of women's professional voice and voice at home. I am 53 years old, and have a long and impressive Vita, attesting to my success as a social activist and scholar. My professional voice is strong - very strong. I have been confused about why my voice at home has led to relationship failures and sadness. Your clarity about this women's phenomenon has provided valuable insights for me. Thank you!!!
5/13/01
3:00:03 PM
217.2.220.170
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98; DT)
5/7/01
7:58:58 AM
64.12.105.157
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
For Jane Fonda.
I am trying to rally support to help young girls who are the victims of polygamy and who don't have the means nor a place to run. I am in contact with one woman who did escape and we are trying to find ways to bring the horrors of the polygamist society to public light. I need help. And there are so many details of which I can share if I can reach you.
Please respond.
MarciaColo@aol.com
4/30/01
12:08:50 PM
65.84.44.199
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women the Century." Unfortunately many have forgotten, and still countless others have never known, how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is: Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, & was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In'78, the AF Col. Still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months under Vietnamese captors, who deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women. Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. Charles (Skip) Klingman, Asst. Professor of Music Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK 73096 PHONE: (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795 If having Jane Fonda named one of the woman of the century bothers you as much as it does me,
MuleLip@MSN.COM
4/30/01
2:37:12 AM
4.42.78.216
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98; VZ_IE5)
For the Childern of that time I can't come home
We were the men who stood alone. And forgotten by a country, that was our home. So much has changed while we were here in this awful place.
I can't come home to face the disgrace.
Our country's sons who paid the price, One year or a life we will have to give.
Our hearts are empty of all but blood, I can't come home, with just sweat and mud.
We were the men who answered the call. For our country's, duty, family and all. We were the men who stood alone, and forgotten by a country, that was our home
So I will just stay here, with my fellow man, a Soldier , a friend, and to its end. We have always been by each other side, with a pride that we hide. We were the men who stood alone Forgot by a country, that was our home.
God please, hear our simple prayer, forgive us, and take us, to your home. For we were the men who stood alone. Forgot by a country, that can't welcome us home.
4/27/01
2:05:55 PM
134.87.208.66
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
To my Sister in Christ, Jane
4/25/01
6:32:04 PM
24.183.231.70
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Win98 A; ATHMWWW1.1; MSOCD;)
Hi Jane, I have been a fan of yours for as long as I can remember. I love your movies as well as your workouts. I just wanted to write to you to tell you that I'm sorry you are having to go through a divorce, but I am rejoicing that you are now a Christian. Praise God! I work in a Christian office, and we pray every morning. We have added you to our prayer list for support and strength in your walk with God. I want to encourage you to stay strong in your faith. I would love to communicate with you and encourage you. My e-mail address is caryn@mail.iglide.net.
4/21/01
9:09:45 PM
63.30.52.83
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
I read a lot of the messages on the message board, and note some of them are hate mail. People who cannot forgive Jane Fonda, even though God has forgiven her, do not know the meaning of Christianity. When someone is a born again believer, the old things have passed away and all things have become new. Jane Fonda is a "new creature" in Christ Jesus. Her past is buried with Christ, and she has been raised to newness of life in Christ. If you who are writing this vindictive drivel "profess" to be Christians, you should study about just what a Christian is. Then you must forgive, and welcome Jane home. I would love to be able to communicate with you, Jane. My email is: mcage65@yahoo.com.
4/21/01
8:46:42 PM
63.30.52.83
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Jane, I have been reading that you are a born again Christian. I am a Christian, and I will remember you in my prayers that you will grow in your faith and knowledge, and the attack of the enemy will be slight. I have been a long time fan of yours, and was of your father's. Now I rejoice you are a sister in Christ. God bless you!
4/21/01
1:52:53 AM
216.51.101.252
Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)
Dear Jane:
I have never written to a celebrity in my entire life. I just have had you on my heart and mind since I heard the news that you are now a Christian. I am just sending this email to encourage you and to let you know that you are in my prayers, specifically, that God will bless you and use your life for Him. I am so very thrilled that you have accepted Christ and I hope that it really is true. I pray that you will grow in Christ and have enough privacy so you can study and learn and know all of God's truth. You seem like a very strong and intelligent person and you will be quite an encouragement to so many. You may never know until you get to heaven just how many lives you have influenced for the Lord, just by allowing this wonderful news to come out. I admire your strength to let the world know where you stand since the world seems to lower its opinion about Christ daily. The Bible says that all the angels in heaven rejoice when just one person comes to Christ. That's awesome.
I became a Christian at a very young age - 5 years old and my parents taught me that the Bible is the infallibe Word of God. I have always known that God was in my heart all this time but I have always been the the type to ask "why? why? why?" I have had so many questions about the Bible and God and I can tell you that now I have been a Christian for 31 years and have never seen a mistruth or lie from God. I have never gotten a valid argument against the Bible from anyone. Most people who reject it as truth have never even read it or studied it. The older I get, the more I study and the more I grow in the Lord, I see how He works and I am in awe! My faith only grows as I do. I have often looked at Hollywood and had God put me in a different situation where I didn't come to know Him at such an early age, I probably would have been an actress. I just never felt in my heart I could be true to my convictions and do what it took to be really respected in that field. Over the years as I watch what "celebrities" do or don't do - what choices they make, what judgements they make, etc. I have always felt like "boy, it sure would hard to be a Christian and have a strong walk with the Lord in that profession." What is really wonderful is that He had this path laid out for you, Jane, from the moment you were conceived. We all have our place to serve God. He must really love you a lot - look at the platform he has given you!! You can do so many good things in your position. Anyway, I know there are a lot of Christians who are praying for you and I wish you well, my new sister in Christ. Stay strong.
In Him,
Carolyn Casey (carolyncasey@email.com)
4/20/01
11:33:18 AM
139.169.120.101
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Way to go on not being afraid to tell the world about your conversion to a born again Christian!!! It is Jesus Christ that gives you that courage. God Bless You!
4/20/01
10:34:04 AM
207.252.218.130
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0b; Windows 98)
I'm a Vietnam Vet that forgives you. I would love to chat with you. You are one of my all time favorite actresses. Drop me a line at: piddlerone@yahoo.com Please write! Look forward to hearing from you.
4/20/01
10:07:10 AM
152.163.201.181
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Jane, I don't know if you read these posts or not, but I just wanted to let you know that I was thrilled to hear that you have given your life to Jesus Christ. If that is true, and I hope it is . . . . you will, sooner or later, come to grips with the things you did during Vietnam . . . . .you may have already confessed these things to God . . .and I hope you have . . . . but sooner or later you will have to make some kind of public repentance to the thousands of honorable servicemen that your actions caused injury and even death to. I Praise God for your decision to serve Him . . .and as you mature in the Lord, that you do your best to make peace with those whom you hurt . . . . . .may God Bless you . . . . . .
4/18/01
6:15:28 PM
192.246.78.250
Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
Jane Fonda I am very happy to hear that you have become a born-again Christian. I am sorry for your separation from your husband Ted Turner. He would be a wonderful Christian if he would just see the truth.
Ted Turner's constant love with Communist Regiems and who would like to see America become the same way. The leftist views and regulations inforced on America, will eventually destroy America and Americans Freedoms...
Take Care and God Bless, Donna
4/17/01
7:03:08 AM
212.211.105.17
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt; FREE)
Hello,
I am a french guy and i've eard about your TV program called "people counts". I just come back from a world tour to seek for signs of hope and people bringing hope. I wrote a best seller in france about this world hope tour. I would like to know more about your program (wich TV, the web site, the idea) and also the oppurtunity to work for you on this program. Christian, PAris, cdeboisredon@compuserve.com
4/15/01
11:38:36 AM
64.12.102.168
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; AOL 5.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
You are living testimony to the adage that good intentions often yield the worst results. While I was impressed by your apology to American veterans for your stupid, shameful, and treasonous actions in North Vietnam, your 10 million dollar gift to Carol Gilligan shows me that you have learned nothing from your past errors. You are a rich celebrity with more dollars than sense and you have lost sight of this. You have never been formally educated, nor have you ever been elected to anything. You use your power and influence most irresponsibly.
4/12/01
11:37:59 AM
212.67.103.54
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
If you CAN read this, Ms Fonda, could you help?!
I am trying - in vain - to track down my FAVOURITE movie...one of yours!
A long shot I know...but do u know ANYWHERE I can get hold of 'The Doll Maker'?
Amazing movie...
Any help appreciated...
Thank you Ms Fonda...
Take care..
Leroy_CG@hotmail.com UK
4/10/01
11:56:32 PM
202.148.8.235
Mozilla/4.51 [en] (Win95; I)
Dear Mrs. Jane Fonda, I'm sorry Mrs. Jane Fonda, my email adreess carolus_yuyun@yahoo.com
4/10/01
11:52:19 PM
202.148.8.235
Mozilla/4.51 [en] (Win95; I)
Dear sir, My name carolus from Indonesia, my family have quotation for you about our the bed of nephrite/jade from 11 century. The size our bed is: Lenght : 2.10 meters Width : 1.80 meters High : 2.20 meters And the Price is $ 3.500.000 USD. If you interest with our bed , I can to send photography by email. Thank you very about your attention Mrs. Jane Fonda
4/8/01
8:13:05 AM
208.200.110.85
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century". > Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never > known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific > men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my > conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her > attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name > is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF > Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton". Dragged from a > stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was > ordered to describe for! ! a visiting American "Peace Activist; the "lenient > and humane treatment"; he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and > dragged away. During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon the camp > commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. > still suffered from double vision, (which permanently ended his flying days) > from > the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. > >>From 1963-75, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 > years in the "Hilton" - the first three of which he was "missing in action". > His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group,too, got the fed, > clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation"visit. They, however, > had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still > survived! Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in > the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she > walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging > snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful > for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors". Believing this HAD > to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all > without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped > rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in > charge... and handed him the little pile of paper. Three men died from the > subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, > which is the only reason we know about her actions that day. I was a > civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the > North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 > years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in > Cambodia, and one year in a black box in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors > deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a > leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near > the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My > normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals". When Jane > Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I > would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to > tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far > different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and > parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient". Because of this, I spent > three days > on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of > steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. > I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I > was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She > did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as > part of "100 Years of Great Women". Lest we forget... "100 years of Great > women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the > blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral > reactions > to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. > Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It > will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will > never forget. > > Charles (Skip) Klingman, Asst. Professor of Music > Southwestern Oklahoma State University > Weatherford, OK 73096 > (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795 > > If having Jane Fonda named one of the woman of the century bothers you as > much as it does me, then mail this to everyone on your list. >
"Fortes Fortuna Juvat" Fortune Favors The Brave
4/2/01
3:36:39 AM
195.181.153.224
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 95; DigExt)
hey
4/1/01
5:28:53 PM
63.49.113.12
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)
Miss jane,
I know you not. However, I have been privledged to enjoy your careeer as a motion picture artist.
Thank you so much for sharing your presence with us, the public. We understand that your career in the motion picture industry, and your public image that follows this job description is confusing, and involves manipulation of you, as a child of god.
I am a Navy brat, and my memoriesof my childhood are hard to accept. My father was, and is, a patriot. We understood that our lives were in support of international individual freedom. I Know that your actions during the Vietnam war were wholly supported by Spririt, and were not to be judged by the "powers that be."
The individuals that suffered at the hand of "the powers that be" during the Vietnam war are growing in acknowledgement. They are calling out to you, as single individuals, for an answer.
I wish to offer you my support as a child of god, as Who I Am. If you choose to respond to the calls for help from these individuals, you will be glad you did. I will silently stand behind you as you do so, if only you will ask me. Together we can heal the past. Fortunate that you and I stand here in recognition of the "powers that be." Let us continue into the future in loving relationship as daughters of our Beloved Father.
Jane,
I have been bold enough to send messages to individuals I do not know. May I state that never have I had so much difficulty sending a message to anyone as I have experienced in sending you this message. There is a serious problem with your carrier. Perhaps if you were to attempt to send yourself a message, you would see what I mean. Do not be naieve!
I love you more than you understand. I am incapable of judgement, by choice.
Delora
4/1/01
5:26:26 PM
24.129.174.149
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
> Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women > of the Century." > Unfortunately many have forgotten and still > countless others have never > known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of > our country but specific > men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part > of my conviction comes > from personal exposure to those who suffered her > attentions. > The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The > pilot's name is Jerry > Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former > Commandant of the USAF Survival > School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." > Dragged from a stinking > cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in > clean PJs, he was ordered to > describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" > the "lenient and humane > treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was > clubbed, and dragged > away. During the subsequent beating, He fell forward > upon the camp > commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. > In '78, the AF Col. > still suffered from double vision (which permanently > ended his flying days) > from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a > wooden baton. > >From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the > 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He > spent 6 > years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he > was "missing in action." > >>His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. > His > group, too, got the > cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a > peace delegation" visit. > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get > word to the world that > they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece > of paper, with his SSN > on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before > Ms. Fonda and a > cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's > hand and asking little > encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you > bombed babies?" and "Are > you grateful for the humane treatment from your > benevolent captors?" > Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed > her their sliver of paper. > She took them all without missing a beat. At the end > of the line and once > the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief > of the POWs, she turned > to the officer in charge ... and handed him the > little pile of papers. Three > men died from the subsequent beatings. Col.Carrigan > was almost number four > but he survived, which is the only reason we know > about her actions that > day. I was a civilian economic development advisor > in Vietnam, and was > captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South > Vietnam in 1968, and > held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary > confinement, one year > in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box" > in Hanoi. My North > Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and > murdered a female missionary, a > nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thu, South Vietnam, > whom I buried in the > jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was > weighing approximately > 90 lb.. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane > Fonda's "war > criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was > asked by the camp communist > political officer if I would be willing to meet with > Jane Fonda. I said yes, > for I would like to tell her about the real > treatment we POWs were > receiving, which was far different from the > treatment purported by the North > Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as humane > and lenient." Because of > this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my > knees with outstretched arms > with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and > beaten with a bamboo > cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to > meet with Jane Fonda for > a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her > if she would be willing > to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This > does not exemplify someone > who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great > Women." Lest we > forget..."100 years of great women" should never > include a traitor whose > hands are covered with the blood of so many > patriots. There are few things I > have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's > participation in blatant > treason, is one of them. Please take the time to > forward to as many people > as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on > her computer and she needs > to know that we will never forget.
3/28/01
1:43:56 PM
213.213.41.10
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 95)
i love you
3/14/01
12:13:39 PM
66.72.123.71
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90; Hotbar 2.0)
Dear Jane, Hello, my name is Karen Council but I prefer to be called Aaren. I am a very big fan of yours.
I am writing a novel and you are the thesis of my novel. The novel is a fantasy & it is called "Obsession Works". You have inspired me to write this novel! I write everyday and Im always writing something down and analyzing ideas in my head. Do I have your permission to write this novel in which you have inspired?
Cordialy, Aaren Council e-mail address:CrazyA3@webtv.net
3/10/01
8:12:59 PM
209.12.74.138
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; MSN 2.5; Windows 98; DigExt; GO Network v1)
Ms. Fonda, Thank you. You've taken so many "hits" on behalf of so many causes. I hope your good work comes back to you ten-fold. Blessings to you. cel.
3/3/01
6:40:11 PM
204.182.65.222
Mozilla/4.72 [en] (Win98; U)
Jane,
Many of today's corporations are not spending enough money to develop new technolgies nor to improve thier products and the quality of life for everyone.
Venture Capitalist (VC) companies are always looking for the "Golden Goose" and pull funds from companies if they do not show short term profit (1-2 years).
Banks only give money to companies that have collateral.
Why am I bringing this up? Because I am a technical researcher and I would like to get some essential technologies through the initial development cycle (6-10 years). I recently reviewed a patent of a company that has a technology that could reduce energy consumption by reducing the heat resistance in metal. This company has been funded through Angel Investors for 8 years but they need more money to get the technology to the production phase.
What am I proposing? I would like to know if there is a Foundation that invests in needed technologies and gets them to the point where the viability can be tested. I am not interested in a VC or Angel that thinks in terms of 1-2 year investments but has a rational investor that thinks in terms of long term investents that change the way we live.
If you have any information about Foundations that invest in future needed technologies please let me know.
Bob Huff bob@riverplace.org
2/28/01
12:25:47 AM
206.9.118.243
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; ezn/58/ie5)
> Hanoi Jane is to be honored. I don't think it is right. Read this > and pass it on. She should have been jailed and shot for treason: > > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century". > Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have > never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but > specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my > conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. > > The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. > > The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1978, the former > Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the > "Hanoi Hilton". Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and > dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American > "Peace Activist; the "lenient and humane treatment"; he'd received. He > spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent > beating, He fell forward upon the camp commandant's feet, which sent > that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col.still suffered from double vision > (which > permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied > application of a wooden baton. > > From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 > years in the "Hilton" - the first three of which he was "missing in action". > His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the > cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation"visit. > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they > still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of > paper, with his SN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. > Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and > asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed > babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent > captors?". > > Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. > She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the > camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to > the officer in charge ... and handed him the little pile of papers. > > Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col.Carrigan was almost number > four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions > thatday. > > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured > by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for > over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage > in Cambodia, and one year in a black box in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors > deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in > aleprosarium > in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the > Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My > normal weight is 170 lbs.) > > We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals". When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was > asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing > to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the > real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the > treatment > purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as > "human and lenient". > > Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my > knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, > and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity > to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked > her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. > > She did not answer me. > > This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years > of Great Women". Lest we forget..."100 years of great women"should never > include > a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. = > > There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's > participation inblatant treason, is one of them. > > Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.It will > eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never > forget.
2/27/01
10:52:46 AM
128.6.53.42
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
I welcome you to the Family of God!! A warn invitation is extended to you to join us to the Women of Calvary retreat: Held on March 9-11 at the Sheraton Parisippany in NJ. As a daughter of the King you will experience His Presence and Love. (With God ALL things are possible Math 19:26).
In His Service Florence
2/24/01
11:23:04 PM
202.72.156.94
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)
Hi Jane
Live dangerously (haven't you always!) spread your wings and visit a largely unspoiled part of the world with wonderful beaches, water, air and people. Denmark on the south coast of Western Australia. Next stop Antarctica. It would be wonderful to meet you and show you around. Regards David email:david2000@wn.com.au
2/23/01
2:32:41 PM
24.4.254.48
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; AtHome020)
Am I right in that her last apology for the Viet Nam affair was in 85 with B. Walters (one sentence). Has she done anything to show support of any Vet. cause since this apology? Why is this so?
2/23/01
1:55:57 AM
63.10.27.245
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows
98)::ELNSB50::000081100320025802940183000000000502000800000000
> Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."
> Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never > known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but > specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my > conviction comes from personal exposure to those who suffered her > attentions. The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. > The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former > Commandant of the > USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." > Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed > in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American > "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He > spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. > > During the subsequent beating, He fell forward upon the camp > Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the > AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended > his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a
> wooden baton. > > Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent 6 years in the > "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action". His wife > lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the > cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation"
> visit. > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that > they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN > on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a > cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking > little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and > "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent > captors?" > > Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of
> paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the > line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of
> the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge ... and handed him the little > pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. > > Col.Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the > only reason we know about her actions that day. > > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was > captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968,
> and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement,
> one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. > My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female > missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, > whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I
> was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We
> were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." > > When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist > political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said > yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were > receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the > North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." > > Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with
> outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and > beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped. I had the opportunity to > meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. Iasked > her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. > > This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100
> Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" > should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood > of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral > reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is > one of them. > > Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly > can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know > that we will never forget. >
2/18/01
12:35:56 AM
65.80.181.102
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; MSN 2.5; Windows 98; BellSouth.net; DigExt)
Hi you are a great actress and a first class lady, you were outstanding on the Barbara Walters interview. I would love a autographed picture of you. Good Luck and God Bless. Thanks, Hondo, box 101523 Nashville Tn 37224, hondo@london.com
2/16/01
3:22:19 PM
216.174.13.98
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)
Dear Ms. Fonda:
I learned of your opposition to female genital mutilation on "Biography" last week. You have an important opportunity to help save hundreds, perhaps thousands of women and children from genital mutilation in the Maluku Islands in East Indonesia. More information is below.
I am Alexis Crow, VP and General Counsel of Christian Aid Mission. If you wish, you can learn more about Christian Aid through our website at www.christianaid.org. CA is a 40 year old nonprofit nondenominational organization dedicated to the financial support of indigenous Christian missions around the world. These efforts include evangelization, as well as vocational training, Bible training, literacy projects, orphans and widows homes, rescue and training of temple prostitutes and many other projects. Christian Aid is a member of Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability and the Better Business Bureau.
As you undoubtedly know, there is an ongoing bloody conflict in Indonesia. Dr. Thamrin Tomagola, a sociologist at the University of Indonesia has characterized it as "the most terrible civil war in the world." According to him, more people have been killed per population count than in Bosnia. The government of Indonesia's efforts to maintain order have been undermined in many cases by troops who side with the Muslim jihad.
The concern that I wish to bring to your attention involves the forced conversions of Christians being made by a local branch of the Laskar Jihad, or Holy War Troops, a Muslim paramilitary group from Indonesia's main island of Java. This is accomplished increasingly in the Maluku Islands in Eastern Indonesia through forcible genital mutilation.
We are receiving reliable reports that hundreds, including children and pregnant women, are being genitally mutilated. The initial trauma is severe and it is compounded by subsequent infection as well as continuing physical and emotional damage. There is evidence that nearly 4,000 villagers on at least six islands have been forced to convert to Islam under the threat of death, torture or destruction of their homes. The threat is worsening.
In the face of scant international awareness and no action by the UN thus far, local Christians have begun evacuating Christians from the most "at risk" villages and islands with the hope of relocating them to a larger predominantly Christian city. The military is departing from some of these islands at the end of February and there is a real possibility that all the Christians left behind will be mutilated or killed.
Christian Aid has joined others in a multi-organizational emergency effort to send money for the evacuation and resettlement. Time is of the essence in getting the funds to these heroic people. As you can see, this is not a political effort. Nor is it a "religious" effort. It is simply action to rescue certain people from genital mutilation that is being perpetrated as an act of war.
Here is the rescue plan:
Area targeted - North Maluku 8 villages are identified as "at risk"; 1425 families (7061 individuals) have been identified
What your help can do:
$2250 will pay for one boatload (22 needed) $250 will provide a temporary tent for a family $90 will feed a family of five for a month
The relief efforts include building small homes for the refugees, along with 1.2 acres of land per family and food for the first 6 months of resettlement.
The best estimate is that $1 million would evacuate and resettle most of the families at risk.
I am personally asking you to consider what you can do to help these people. If you give your gift through Christian Aid, you have our word that 100% of it will go to the evacuation effort. Not one cent will be spent otherwise. If you prefer to give your gift through some other channel, I would be pleased to offer you whatever assistance I can to help you do it. We are in personal contact with the man spearheading the effort and have no doubts about the integrity or worthiness of this effort.
Thank you so much for your consideration. I truly hope to hear from you soon. Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions.
Sincerely,
Alexis Crow, VP and General Counsel alexisc@christianaid.org
2/16/01
3:18:51 PM
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Dear Ms. Fonda:
I learned of your opposition to female genital mutilation on "Biography" last week. You have an important opportunity to help save hundreds, perhaps thousands of women and children from genital mutilation in the Maluku Islands in East Indonesia. More information is below.
I am Alexis Crow, VP and General Counsel of Christian Aid Mission. If you wish, you can learn more about Christian Aid through our website at www.christianaid.org. CA is a 40 year old nonprofit nondenominational organization dedicated to the financial support of indigenous Christian missions around the world. These efforts include evangelization, as well as vocational training, Bible training, literacy projects, orphans and widows homes, rescue and training of temple prostitutes and many other projects. Christian Aid is a member of Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability and the Better Business Bureau.
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